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2018/02/14 21:03:40
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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the_scotsman wrote: Arachnofiend wrote: Blackie wrote:Let's face reality people: only imperium and chaos get new releases, that's the GW politics since years.
Xenos could maybe get a single dude, probably a new model that replaces something already existing, like the cryptek. Or ork buggies.
Is "years" in this case... one year? The last big Xenos release was GSC in 2016. Xenos get far fewer releases than Imperium and Chaos, I will definitely admit to that, but they do happen.
I think you'll find it's 2018 now. How time flies!
We're not even halfway through 2018, this year hardly counts for "weh weh xenos get nothing" complaints.
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2018/02/14 21:50:56
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I am expecting a ton more primaris stuff but more like add on sprues to make all the other marine factiins use them as they phase out old marine sculpts.
Full line wise i am expecting fulgrim acompanied by emperors children
Im also expecting sisters codex to drop dead last with a new line of troops and probably a new infantry unit
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2018/02/14 22:11:52
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Overread wrote:Sisters of Battle are teased so openly by GW now that its fairly clear that they will get some attention. They've paid so much attention that they can't now just sweep them under the carpet.
No it's not clear.
Well if GW aren't doing it within the near future then chances are they've made a serious blunder with their continual hinting of it; which is basically the same as advertising.
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2018/02/15 00:34:59
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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nateprati wrote:I am expecting a ton more primaris stuff but more like add on sprues to make all the other marine factiins use them as they phase out old marine sculpts.
People keep saying this with regards to "old marines"...but there's nothing suggesting they want to drop the line, especially in light of the Devastators, Assaults, some characters in plastic, etc that got done relatively recently.
With that out of the way:
I'm guessing the next full line to be launched with models will be Ynnari. They've stated that they're getting a book and it would make sense that it would come out at roughly the same time as a "Slaanesh Daemonkin" styled book, featuring Emperor's Children and Slaanesh Daemons in there.
Genestealer Cults have yet to receive an Aberrant kit outside of the Deathwatch Overkill box, so I'm expecting that to come with their Codex whenever it happens.
I'd assume Orks and World Eaters would likely get some love at a similar time since Angron's going after Armageddon again(jerk).
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2018/02/15 00:46:58
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:nateprati wrote:I am expecting a ton more primaris stuff but more like add on sprues to make all the other marine factiins use them as they phase out old marine sculpts.
People keep saying this with regards to "old marines"...but there's nothing suggesting they want to drop the line, especially in light of the Devastators, Assaults, some characters in plastic, etc that got done relatively recently.
To be clear i think this will be a really really slow process. I just see size creep in thier models across the board and cant see them making new sculpts with smaller bodies. Maybe in 10 years they will be 100% phased out and by then everyone will be cheering for updates like we are now
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2018/02/15 01:08:17
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Confessor Of Sins
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Chamberlain wrote:Here's my list. A * means they got some sort of shuffle. A triumvirate model released individually, a new start collecting box, an Age of Sigmar kit ported over. That sort of thing.
Space Marines* - got primaris releases
Chaos Space Marines - got plaguemarin-- oh wait those are for
Deathguard - got plaguemarine and vehicle releases
Grey Knights*
Astra Militarum - EDIT:Bobthehero: "The Guard got the new Marbo"
Adeptus Mechanicus*
Tyranids*
Craftworlds*
Blood Angels - primaris + upgrade sprue, Lieutenant
Dark Angels* - primaris + upgrade sprue, Lieutenant
Chaos Daemons* - GUO, 2 heralds, gnarlmaw, beast of nurgle
Adeptus Custodes - Trajann Valoris, Terminator box, Jetbike box
Thousand Sons*
So it's like 50-50 that an army will get something new. The new Necron character plus maybe one other things for the next 3 books? Is there anything that can be repacked like triumverate boxes? Any AoS stuff that could be ported over?
Nice list, Chamberlain. Basically, every codex has gotten something either, either a single release from a prior boxed set, a few new releases, or a full on line of releases. They have already previewed the Cryptex, so what do they have lined up for Tau and Dark Eldar?
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2018/02/15 01:38:24
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Overread wrote:Well if GW aren't doing it within the near future then chances are they've made a serious blunder with their continual hinting of it; which is basically the same as advertising.
See my sig about how well their “continual hinting which is basically the same as advertising” is well thought-out.
Because such a blunder is definitely not out of character for “new” GW.
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2018/02/15 02:52:27
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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alextroy wrote:
Nice list, Chamberlain. Basically, every codex has gotten something either, either a single release from a prior boxed set, a few new releases, or a full on line of releases. They have already previewed the Cryptex, so what do they have lined up for Tau and Dark Eldar?
I can't predict things at this point. I thought I had some idea of how they were doing the 8th edition roll out but every time I've speculated, I've been wrong. So if they do have a new release (whether it is a repurposed AoS release, a triumverate character now sold individually or an actual new model) it'll be something I'm not going to be able to see coming.
I'll hazard a guess anyway though. It'll be nicely wrong: the new daughters of khaine for AoS plus an upgrade sprue with Drukhari parts. Sort of like how Tzaangors get chain swords and pistols for use in 40k.
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2018/02/15 03:03:23
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Fiery Bright Wizard
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I still think plastic incubi would be nice, same with mandrakes. But it probably won't happen. Each of those 3 codexes might get an HQ converted to plastic or something minor.
At the end of the day though, i'm on hiatus from regular 40k until they do sisters of battle. Necromunda doesn't count though, i'm all in on that. So if we never get proper plastic SoB, i'm gonna be skating along not spending much money for quite some time. Since GW seems content to do everything except release a proper line of sisters miniatures. Hell, this post alone probably set the clock back a month or two. And GW poking fun at their own fanbase is confirmation of nothing.
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2018/02/15 03:31:44
Subject: Re:Next faction to get model updates?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Necrons and Imperium are confirmed, however not sure on either release date.
Deldar, Necrons, Tau, and one other I can't remember are getting codex drops.
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2018/02/15 03:56:10
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Since a friend bought it we've been slowly making stats for our 40k stuff. Lots of stuff is just out of the scope of a necromunda sized skirmish game (terminators, much less things like a dreadnought), but lots of 8th edition stats are close to the underhive stat blocks enough that it can be straight forward.
I'm actually kind of surprised they didn't do datasheets for the necromunda gangs. They'd make great generic imperium units. 10 model squads with a variety of weapons. It'd be cool.
My local group has started scouring buy-sell groups and local craigslist type pages for Tau. There are a few that are super excited about Tau with full stratagems and warlord traits and the like. The index has been fine, but the codexes add so much cool stuff.
I'm hoping that the growth of Necron dynasties on the maps of the galaxies in the codex books means the Necrons will get more than just one character. While the Dark Eldar need the releases the most, I play against Necrons a lot and would like to see something connected to the return of the Silent King.
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2018/02/15 08:16:49
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
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Arachnofiend wrote:the_scotsman wrote: Arachnofiend wrote: Blackie wrote:Let's face reality people: only imperium and chaos get new releases, that's the GW politics since years.
Xenos could maybe get a single dude, probably a new model that replaces something already existing, like the cryptek. Or ork buggies.
Is "years" in this case... one year? The last big Xenos release was GSC in 2016. Xenos get far fewer releases than Imperium and Chaos, I will definitely admit to that, but they do happen.
I think you'll find it's 2018 now. How time flies!
We're not even halfway through 2018, this year hardly counts for "weh weh xenos get nothing" complaints.
We really get nothing In fact xenos received something only if you consider all factions, which are very different armies.
And all the xenos releases were related to other imperium stuff. The ynnari were released only because of Gathering Storm, Gen cult only to promote Deathwatch Overkill and Harlequins because of Death Masque. Without those boxed games, which had the purpose to promote the Deathwatch, both xenos factions wouldn't have received any models.
And they're two factions that are barely independent and not that common, played by a very low amount of people.
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2018/02/15 09:03:07
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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[quote[And they're two factions that are barely independent and not that common, played by a very low amount of people.
if the two new xenos factions introduced have this apply to them, then perhaps it stands to reason why GW hasn't been releasing dorves of them?
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2018/02/15 09:04:13
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Blackie wrote: Arachnofiend wrote:the_scotsman wrote: Arachnofiend wrote: Blackie wrote:Let's face reality people: only imperium and chaos get new releases, that's the GW politics since years.
Xenos could maybe get a single dude, probably a new model that replaces something already existing, like the cryptek. Or ork buggies.
Is "years" in this case... one year? The last big Xenos release was GSC in 2016. Xenos get far fewer releases than Imperium and Chaos, I will definitely admit to that, but they do happen.
I think you'll find it's 2018 now. How time flies!
We're not even halfway through 2018, this year hardly counts for "weh weh xenos get nothing" complaints.
We really get nothing In fact xenos received something only if you consider all factions, which are very different armies.
And all the xenos releases were related to other imperium stuff. The ynnari were released only because of Gathering Storm, Gen cult only to promote Deathwatch Overkill and Harlequins because of Death Masque. Without those boxed games, which had the purpose to promote the Deathwatch, both xenos factions wouldn't have received any models.
And they're two factions that are barely independent and not that common, played by a very low amount of people.
The harlequin models were released long before Death Masque. DM only introduced the new Eldrad.
But I agree "Xenos" doesn't mean much. I only play Eldar, so an Ork, Necron, Nid, or Tau release doesn't do anything for me. I can't buy a single kit because it looks cool and add it to my army.
In any case, I don't really see the point in complaining about releases. It doesn't accomplish anything: other people on the forum cannot give you new models, and if GW released models based of how much whining there is on forums, we'd have primaris plastic sisters by now.
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2018/02/15 09:08:09
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Blackie wrote: Arachnofiend wrote:the_scotsman wrote: Arachnofiend wrote: Blackie wrote:Let's face reality people: only imperium and chaos get new releases, that's the GW politics since years.
Xenos could maybe get a single dude, probably a new model that replaces something already existing, like the cryptek. Or ork buggies.
Is "years" in this case... one year? The last big Xenos release was GSC in 2016. Xenos get far fewer releases than Imperium and Chaos, I will definitely admit to that, but they do happen.
I think you'll find it's 2018 now. How time flies!
We're not even halfway through 2018, this year hardly counts for "weh weh xenos get nothing" complaints.
We really get nothing In fact xenos received something only if you consider all factions, which are very different armies.
And all the xenos releases were related to other imperium stuff. The ynnari were released only because of Gathering Storm, Gen cult only to promote Deathwatch Overkill and Harlequins because of Death Masque. Without those boxed games, which had the purpose to promote the Deathwatch, both xenos factions wouldn't have received any models.
And they're two factions that are barely independent and not that common, played by a very low amount of people.
So even after repeatedly been shown how wrong your statement was you still persist?
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2018/02/15 09:12:14
Subject: Re:Next faction to get model updates?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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they're not xenos factions he wanted so they don't count apparently
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2018/02/15 09:39:48
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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tneva82 wrote: Blackie wrote: Arachnofiend wrote:the_scotsman wrote: Arachnofiend wrote: Blackie wrote:Let's face reality people: only imperium and chaos get new releases, that's the GW politics since years.
Xenos could maybe get a single dude, probably a new model that replaces something already existing, like the cryptek. Or ork buggies.
Is "years" in this case... one year? The last big Xenos release was GSC in 2016. Xenos get far fewer releases than Imperium and Chaos, I will definitely admit to that, but they do happen.
I think you'll find it's 2018 now. How time flies!
We're not even halfway through 2018, this year hardly counts for "weh weh xenos get nothing" complaints.
We really get nothing In fact xenos received something only if you consider all factions, which are very different armies.
And all the xenos releases were related to other imperium stuff. The ynnari were released only because of Gathering Storm, Gen cult only to promote Deathwatch Overkill and Harlequins because of Death Masque. Without those boxed games, which had the purpose to promote the Deathwatch, both xenos factions wouldn't have received any models.
And they're two factions that are barely independent and not that common, played by a very low amount of people.
So even after repeatedly been shown how wrong your statement was you still persist?
Not sure why you guys think his statement was wrong? He said it's been years and it has been years. 2016 - 2018 is 2 yearS, not a year. If anything he has been proven to be correct and whoever suggested it has only been a year is wrong.
I don't share his pessimism but you can't deny that his statement was entirely correct.
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2018/02/15 09:46:10
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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You guys can say whatever you want want but ANY single chaos faction and ANY single imperium faction got several releases in the last 4 years, since allies are legal and abused in 8th edition. Most of those releases are not even allies but proper new releases to the already existing factions.
Tyranids and eldar/dark eldar got a spin off faction.
No releases for tau, orks, necrons and only allies for tyranids, eldar and dark eldar. That's reality.
And stop considering xenos the sum of 5-6 factions that can't be mixed together, when you make comparison with chaos and imperium, because it's not fair, there are factions that haven't received anything since years, that'a fact.
To make things clear, I don't even want new models for the factions I collect, I have too many of them that I wouldn't know how to storage them. But new models means more love and more variety of factions in any meta, that's what I'd really like. At the moment pretty much everyone, including me, owns an imperium or chaos faction, which is something very silly and absurd. The promotion of chaos and imperium stuff basically forces or at least highly encourages players to collect those factions. At some point we'll have 30k portrayed into 40k, with only three possible combinations: imperium vs chaos, imperium vs imperium, chaos vs chaos.
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2018/02/15 09:49:39
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Blackie wrote:You guys can say whatever you want want but ANY single chaos faction and ANY single imperium faction got several releases in the last 4 years, since allies are legal and abused in 8th edition. Most of those releases are not even allies but proper new releases to the already existing factions.
Tyranids and eldar/dark eldar got a spin off faction.
No releases for tau, orks, necrons and only allies for tyranids, eldar and dark eldar. That's reality.
Tau got releases in 2015. And as you said tyranids and eldar/dark eldar got releases. Necrons are getting release which puts some imperial factions even within themselves in shame. You claimed only chaos/Imperium gets releases when markedly false so how about stop lying?
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2018/02/15 10:15:43
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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tneva82 wrote:You claimed only chaos/Imperium gets releases when markedly false so how about stop lying?
He claimed that it has been a policy of GW's to release only Imperium or Chaos stuff for a number of years now which is entirely true. Last release for any xenos faction was 2016? It's now 2018. In that time we've had a ton of new Imperial models and a ton of new Chaos models. Don't turn this into a flame war or petty argument, it's supposed to be a fun topic speculating about what's next.
We know for a fact that Necrons are getting a new model.
I'd hope that other xenos factions are getting new models too - Orks would suit me but Eldar are in need of plastic kits and the Avatar competes with our Buggy for oldest model still sold. I think it's more likely that GW will release new units rather than update old ones - Ynarri are a good shout here, as are Harlies. It looks bad for Deldar and Tau imo, both of their lines are pretty much all plastic and complete. If Tau are to get new auxiliaries it'll be a post codex release.
I don't think we'll see a Sisters of Silence release because the rage of Sister's of Battle players would probably birth a new Chaos god. I could see both getting new models but it will have to be SOB first.
Inquisition is getting Eisenhorn so maybe they'll get some new toys? Perhaps a Sisters of Silence/Inquisition release?
We know Knights are getting the new mini-Knight and it makes me wonder if that's all they'll get.
One thing I do hope is that GW releases units (and factions) as it has done in AOS. Give us some massive centrepiece models for each faction, give us more regular releases but less full as a normal release. It keeps things much more exciting, as do the rumour engine pics.
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2018/02/15 11:30:18
Subject: Re:Next faction to get model updates?
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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For what it's worth, I'd be more than happy to just see some rules updates for my DE.
I'd rather have rules for a winged/skyboard/jetbike character and no model, than have no model *and* no rules.
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blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
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2018/02/15 12:18:29
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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It's been a bit of a common theme for Codex releases to get a quick release of a model that was previously only available as part of a boxset as something to deliver a new kit and fix what is probably an inventory problem. With that in mind I expect Genestealer Cults will sneak out at some point in the summer with an Aberrants Box, as having to buy Deathwatch Overkill for four of them is getting a bit silly.
There was a rumour that GCs were getting a new "weird" unit, so I could maybe see there being a full kit that had a dual use as Aberrants and this new unit. What it is I dunno, maybe some mutation hybrid that is a bit like a biovore, guys with huge cannons replacing their chest/heads? That or some psychic artillery sort perhaps.
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2018/02/15 12:59:20
Subject: Next faction to get model updates?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Will say it will be space wolf's besides the confirmed necrons guy and such . Reason I say space wolf's is they are going to be among the last codex and we all know there will be another primarch and was a toss up between Russ and the emo angel.
I hope upon hope that it's dark eldar that get the new models replace those bloody finecast stuff but it won't be.
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2018/02/15 13:07:07
Subject: Re:Next faction to get model updates?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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vipoid wrote:For what it's worth, I'd be more than happy to just see some rules updates for my DE.
I'd rather have rules for a winged/skyboard/jetbike character and no model, than have no model *and* no rules.
Sadly its seems unlikely that you will get rules without a model - although they of course ignored that and did a conversion for the Grey Knights.
It would be nice if they did more of this - show how they can use various kits to make new options - they have so many compatable models and its cross selling but i guess its too much effort
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2018/02/15 14:06:03
Subject: Re:Next faction to get model updates?
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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Mr Morden wrote:
Sadly its seems unlikely that you will get rules without a model - although they of course ignored that and did a conversion for the Grey Knights.
It would be nice if they did more of this - show how they can use various kits to make new options - they have so many compatable models and its cross selling but i guess its too much effort
The thing is though, the 'no model, no rules' rule hasn't been applied equally to all armies and instead resulted in blatant favouritism.
Even if you leave out the numerous examples wherein SM/Chaos armies got to keep units that didn't have models (especially bike or jump pack characters - all of which were removed from DE back in 5th), you've got the example of Necrons vs Dark Eldar.
Necrons went into 7th missing about 5 characters ( IIRC)
Dark Eldar went into 7th also missing 5 characters
Necrons got models for all their characters.
Dark Eldar had every one of those characters removed from their book.
What's more, other armies that have rules without models got to keep most of those rules in their indices. So even if those rules don't appear in their codex, they at least have the index options to fall back on.
Meanwhile, Dark Eldar were already stripped to the bone by the pile of excrement GW called a codex in a 7th edition, and their index has succeeded only in draining them of their marrow.
So, in the likely event that the codex brings with it no new models, DE have nothing to fall back on. Chaos, for example, can still take a Jump Pack Sorcerer from their index. Eldar still have access to Jetbike and Warp Spider Autarchs. Meanwhile, DE HQs can't take a single movement option between them (those were removed in 5th and never given back), nor do they have any useful, fun or interesting wargear (most of which was stripped away in 7th, with the index ridding them of the last pieces). And, as above, 5 of the 8 special characters they had in 5th have been removed entirely.
I apologise for the rant, but it's more than a little irritating that the 'no rules without models' rule appears to have been applied purely to screw over Dark Eldar as hard as possible, whilst so many other factions are either given new models to retain their rules, or simply ignored entirely for that "rule".
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blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet. |
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2018/02/15 14:29:24
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An Actual Englishman wrote:I don't think we'll see a Sisters of Silence release because the rage of Sister's of Battle players would probably birth a new Chaos god. I could see both getting new models but it will have to be SOB first.
Perhaps not plastic but forgeworld do have a backlog of units to work through for the SoS. They could appear (or not) at any time.
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2018/02/15 14:33:20
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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vipoid wrote:
I apologise for the rant, but it's more than a little irritating that the 'no rules without models' rule appears to have been applied purely to screw over Dark Eldar as hard as possible, whilst so many other factions are either given new models to retain their rules, or simply ignored entirely for that "rule".
That's how I felt when they removed Sergeant Bastonne from the Guard book.
I'm hopeful that Dark Eldar and Tau both are going to see something like the Grey Knights where some boxes are given options for ' HQ' choices. Ghostkeels and Stealth Suits are, IMO, strong contenders for HQ choices in the Tau book.
Scourges, Hellions, and Reavers would be strong contenders for HQs in the Dark Eldar book. Reavers and Hellions could be Wych Cults while the Scourges could be Kabalites.
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2018/02/15 14:41:52
Subject: Re:Next faction to get model updates?
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Kanluwen wrote:
That's how I felt when they removed Sergeant Bastonne from the Guard book.
If you don't mind me asking, who was Bastonne? (I do play IG, but only since 6th)
Kanluwen wrote:
I'm hopeful that Dark Eldar and Tau both are going to see something like the Grey Knights where some boxes are given options for ' HQ' choices. Ghostkeels and Stealth Suits are, IMO, strong contenders for HQ choices in the Tau book.
Scourges, Hellions, and Reavers would be strong contenders for HQs in the Dark Eldar book. Reavers and Hellions could be Wych Cults while the Scourges could be Kabalites.
That would certainly be nice, though the treatment of DE up to and including the index does not make me hopeful.
While we're basically wishlisting, though, I'd also like a Mandrake HQ. Especially since GW has basically make that one unit separate to the rest of the army.
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2018/02/15 15:00:34
Subject: Re:Next faction to get model updates?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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vipoid wrote: Mr Morden wrote:
Sadly its seems unlikely that you will get rules without a model - although they of course ignored that and did a conversion for the Grey Knights.
It would be nice if they did more of this - show how they can use various kits to make new options - they have so many compatable models and its cross selling but i guess its too much effort
The thing is though, the 'no model, no rules' rule hasn't been applied equally to all armies and instead resulted in blatant favouritism.
Even if you leave out the numerous examples wherein SM/Chaos armies got to keep units that didn't have models (especially bike or jump pack characters - all of which were removed from DE back in 5th), you've got the example of Necrons vs Dark Eldar.
Necrons went into 7th missing about 5 characters ( IIRC)
Dark Eldar went into 7th also missing 5 characters
Necrons got models for all their characters.
Dark Eldar had every one of those characters removed from their book.
What's more, other armies that have rules without models got to keep most of those rules in their indices. So even if those rules don't appear in their codex, they at least have the index options to fall back on.
Meanwhile, Dark Eldar were already stripped to the bone by the pile of excrement GW called a codex in a 7th edition, and their index has succeeded only in draining them of their marrow.
So, in the likely event that the codex brings with it no new models, DE have nothing to fall back on. Chaos, for example, can still take a Jump Pack Sorcerer from their index. Eldar still have access to Jetbike and Warp Spider Autarchs. Meanwhile, DE HQs can't take a single movement option between them (those were removed in 5th and never given back), nor do they have any useful, fun or interesting wargear (most of which was stripped away in 7th, with the index ridding them of the last pieces). And, as above, 5 of the 8 special characters they had in 5th have been removed entirely.
I apologise for the rant, but it's more than a little irritating that the 'no rules without models' rule appears to have been applied purely to screw over Dark Eldar as hard as possible, whilst so many other factions are either given new models to retain their rules, or simply ignored entirely for that "rule".
Oh I agree as someone who has a several thousand pts worth of Dark Eldar - in fact I didn't even bother with the 7ed Codex.
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2018/02/15 15:47:20
Subject: Re:Next faction to get model updates?
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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vipoid wrote:If you don't mind me asking, who was Bastonne? (I do play IG, but only since 6th)
Veteran squad sergeant upgrade, similar to sergeant harker.
The 5e book had a few others scattered through squads - Mogul, chenkov, al'rahem. Adding special rules to units.
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