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And how they could tell the editions apart.

My son bought me a codex for my birthday, turned out to be a 7-E copy. Luckily, the FLGS let me trade it for the right one.

 Peregrine wrote:
, but now with 110% MORE WOLVES™. Give your Wolf™ Lord™ on Citadel™ Thunderwolf™ and Wolf™ Sword™ and Armor™ Of™ The™ Space™ Wolf™, or use the new BORK BORK I SEE A FOOD™ stratagem to have your Space™ Puppies™ get that scrap of food on the floor on a 2+.

This is a gem.

Also, Storm, the new ones have a border on the cover around them to differentiate....

But no one unfamiliar with the game will fething know that.

 Stormonu wrote:
And how they could tell the editions apart.

My son bought me a codex for my birthday, turned out to be a 7-E copy. Luckily, the FLGS let me trade it for the right one.

Eye, I've almost done the same thing twice now.


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New rule! Orks are now part of the imperium and have the imperial keyword! All models must be replaced by primaris marines painted blue and withe the ultramarine symbol. Any old Ork models from before the codex is now banned, punishable by excommunication by our holy lord GeDubs.

 vaklor4 wrote:
New ork stuff, nothing new model wise for wolves. Its just buzz words.

I'd prefer zero new SW models thant new SW primaris

Well...on a limb I reckon they will get the following:

Orks - Primork Ghaz and some mega mega nobz bodyguard ala Morty and Deathshroud (or whoever they are)

SWs - Russ and some ludicrously even hairier Wolfen (for arguments sake let's call them the Rogain)

Also copy paste strategems from previous codices....so much so that the intern cocks up and both factions get webway assault.

You have to buy the new cover art with the collectors edition.

I don't know what it costs elsewhere but in Canada it's generally $50+ or more for what a different cover and a tassle? My friends bought them and I just didn't understand, I love unique things but that's too much of a price hike. I can get quite a variety of kits for $50

Haha, would be funny if they do not even change the same and says it is for eldar only. XD


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 fraser1191 wrote:
You have to buy the new cover art with the collectors edition.

I don't know what it costs elsewhere but in Canada it's generally $50+ or more for what a different cover and a tassle? My friends bought them and I just didn't understand, I love unique things but that's too much of a price hike. I can get quite a variety of kits for $50

Do you get anything else or is it just new cover art? Cus that's BS if it is.


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Just had a look. You don't even get the data cards for a cheaper price! They advertise them together but it's the same as if you bought them apart!

 fraser1191 wrote:
You have to buy the new cover art with the collectors edition.

I don't know what it costs elsewhere but in Canada it's generally $50+ or more for what a different cover and a tassle? My friends bought them and I just didn't understand, I love unique things but that's too much of a price hike. I can get quite a variety of kits for $50

I bought the Drukhari and Deathwatch collectors editions with data cards and they were £60 each. So you can mark up your price estimate quite a bit.

Yep, all you get is a bookmark ribbon and different artwork on the front with a soft touch cover.

 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
Orks - Primork Ghaz and some mega mega nobz bodyguard ala Morty and Deathshroud (or whoever they are)

Models for Ghazzy's Bully Boyz would be cool.

This is just wishlisting, but for a more lore-friendly army I'd like it if they released Bully Boyz as an HQ choice that was a unit of 1-5 models. In the older Apocalypse books the Bully Boyz weren't specific to Ghaz, they were a warboss' toughest and most trusted underlings that would sometimes take command of parts if the warband individually and sometimes be formed into a unit to wreck stuff. I remember Orks used to have a lieutenant-type HQ choice a long time ago and I'd like to see it come back.

I think the current Warboss model and rules do a good job of representing an 'average' warboss, but it would be nice to get one a little smaller to represent a subordinate boss or leader of a small band, and one bigger to represent a warlord leading a Waaaagh! Again, this is more of a narrative thing than something I think is necessary from a competitive standpoint.

it means the codex has a lot of pages.
there wont be any new models released.

Mainly I just hope they won't cut a bunch of stuff from the Ork codex.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
Mainly I just hope they won't cut a bunch of stuff from the Ork codex.

If they removed mega armour, kff and biker HQs then it would really be the end of a lot of Ork armies. Luckily my speed freak is a warboss in a wagon (I like the idea of a mad max warboss rather than a biker boss) but I would really feel for other armies.

 lolman1c wrote:

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
Mainly I just hope they won't cut a bunch of stuff from the Ork codex.

If they removed mega armour, kff and biker HQs then it would really be the end of a lot of Ork armies. Luckily my speed freak is a warboss in a wagon (I like the idea of a mad max warboss rather than a biker boss) but I would really feel for other armies.

Doubt it because the biker warboss had a new rule in the last big faq faq/errata update. I have heard for ages that they have new warbuggy models for orks.

I'm not at all convinced we're going to see any new models with the Ork release. When the Knight codex was announced there was that awesome video with a preview of the new Knight. There's also been a ton of rumours around the new Knight releases. We were shown a new GSC model, so why not show a new Ork model, if there was one?

We've had a new Ghazzy model rumoured and a new vehicle possibly from the rumour engine pic. That's it.

I don't know, it all seems a bit quiet to me and GW have been absolutely forgetting about the Xenos in terms of model releases so far in 8th. I can't see it changing.

This would to me tie in to the Gorka Morka rumor I keep seeing.
We get a codex and then they run that boxed game to bring in the cash, we either just keep the models or keep and play everything and they are kinda off the hook for models for a little while. If it takes off they drop more models..
Who knows.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I'm not at all convinced we're going to see any new models with the Ork release. When the Knight codex was announced there was that awesome video with a preview of the new Knight. There's also been a ton of rumours around the new Knight releases. We were shown a new GSC model, so why not show a new Ork model, if there was one?

We've had a new Ghazzy model rumoured and a new vehicle possibly from the rumour engine pic. That's it.

I don't know, it all seems a bit quiet to me and GW have been absolutely forgetting about the Xenos in terms of model releases so far in 8th. I can't see it changing.

I feel this as well. I'm super scared they will just forget about orks and laugh at us... like "I can't believe you actually thought we were going to give you new models!"

Still... look at our codex and check off all the models we have that we do not officially have on the store.
Warboss on bike is a fw model (and the update might suggest we might not even get him or they would have waited)
Big mek on bike,
Piainboy on bike
Big mek with kff
Mega armour warboss

Now look at the units from like 3rd edition and metal
Buggy
Wartrack
Kopta
Big guns
Tank bustas
Kommandos

I forgot the rest...

But these are all unit that could vanish soon enough. But the hqs especially coukd vanish soon enough... we could l8se more than we get.

What would be worse is if we got some new boyz models and again leave out the none footslog Ork players.

 FrozenDwarf wrote:
it means the codex has a lot of pages.
there wont be any new models released.

Of course not. The modeling people are putting in 75 hour weeks ramping up plastic Sisters.

it would be surprising if orks received a slew of new models. I doubt they will flesh out the HQ/character model line.

if they release new space wolf models, I'm sure they will have stupid haircuts and be terrible looking models. the best they can do is just add claws and markings. I'll never get people who like the aesthetic of space wolves without helmets.

And about the topic as a whole: I imagine that the codecies will be absolutely packed with relics and warlord traits and a bit of very topical fluff.


seriously, the worst model line.

All I know is that I'm totally looking forward to more frost and wolf references. Maybe we'll get "Frost Bolters" or "Wolf Bolters"? Oh, Frost ammunition! Yeah! Because nothing says Space Wolf like adding "Wolf" or "Frost" to a noun in the Space Wolf codex to differentiate it from regular Space Marines Codex!

 Tamwulf wrote:
All I know is that I'm totally looking forward to more frost and wolf references. Maybe we'll get "Frost Bolters" or "Wolf Bolters"? Oh, Frost ammunition! Yeah! Because nothing says Space Wolf like adding "Wolf" or "Frost" to a noun in the Space Wolf codex to differentiate it from regular Space Marines Codex!

It reminds me of the 5th edition blood angels codex where they changed absolutely all the wargear to include blood; blood strike missiles, bloodfist for dreds. It was truly obnoxious, like what a four year old would have named everything.

 lolman1c wrote:
I feel this as well. I'm super scared they will just forget about orks and laugh at us... like "I can't believe you actually thought we were going to give you new models!"

Still... look at our codex and check off all the models we have that we do not officially have on the store.
Warboss on bike is a fw model (and the update might suggest we might not even get him or they would have waited)
Big mek on bike,
Piainboy on bike
Big mek with kff
Mega armour warboss

Now look at the units from like 3rd edition and metal
Buggy
Wartrack
Kopta
Big guns
Tank bustas
Kommandos

I forgot the rest...

But these are all unit that could vanish soon enough. But the hqs especially coukd vanish soon enough... we could l8se more than we get.

What would be worse is if we got some new boyz models and again leave out the none footslog Ork players

It's all good, if they do this I'll just continue not to buy any of the old models and probably won't be spending any more money with GW for a while.

The thing that will really piss me off if this is the case is that it makes no sense to leave the codex, which is undoubtedly one of the larger factions, until last. It would be the equivalent of the two finger salute from GW and we've had enough of them in our time.

Kommmandos are from 3rd ? Kommandos are among the most beautiful models currently avaible !

 godardc wrote:
Kommmandos are from 3rd ? Kommandos are among the most beautiful models currently avaible !

No, they are younger than that, the end of 4th when that codex came out. 06'-07'ish.

Given how 8th is developing I've very little faith sw will not be DoA, they've fixed it so elite melee armies don't work.

hobojebus wrote:
Given how 8th is developing I've very little faith sw will not be DoA, they've fixed it so elite melee armies don't work.

Nah, they'll be at least ok what with getting all the Primaris stuff and still having core marine things. Not that that alone will let them consistently win tournaments or anything, but they won't be Grey Knights tier.

It wouldn't take much at all to make them semi competitive even, just looking at Blood Angels.

Yeah... if we did get nothing new and the codex seems very lazy then it would be absolutely insane to leave Orks (the second major faction in 40k! They come even before chaos because they were invented first! This is all I got as an Ork player so let me do my elitism) until 2nd to last. Like it would really highlight GeNubs true feelings towards Ork and Ork players. But if it was an amazing codex then it would be understanding.

This is probably meaningless, but I've been noticing the Big Gunz (Kannons, Lobbas and Zzap Gunz) slowly disappearing from the GW store over time. Not just being marked as sold out, but rather they straight up don't appear on the store at all. At first I noticed it in the U.S. store, but I could still find them in some other countries. A little while back I couldn't find them after checking about half the countries.

I really like the Big Gunz. Don't get me wrong, Mek Gunz are really cool, but for some reason I find the regular old Big Gunz more appealing. In my wildest fantasies I'm hoping they're releasing a kit with three gun carriages, one of each weapon, and maybe some vehicle mounts. Heck, an additional whole new gun that is visually more like the old Hop-Splats and Splatta Kannons would be rad, but would probably do the same thing as Lootas.

I'd hope for some ork releases given the rumours - but given June is presumably going to be all AOS I can't see it unless the codex isn't released until mid/late July.

Also I'd have thought there would be a warhammertv get hyped video - although I guess there is still time if we are looking 6-8 weeks out.

If it was next month then it means there is nothing new to show off.

 lolman1c wrote:
If it was next month then it means there is nothing new to show off.

yeah as someone who wants to see goodies for both codices I DON'T want a june release. a June releassde is a garenteer of "nothing enw ehre"