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Posted By skkipper on 06/18/2006 4:27 PM

So they call it soccer in the uk?

 

F> U>N>N>Y>  i think England does alot better than the states at football. + we dont need armed gaurds for our teams protection.

Drilling is great i do that now, i never used to but its so simple (especially with plastic) and really affective. 

 

Never drill while high or drunk.  you could end up drilling your fingure or head or eye,  it has been known to happen.

 

Rugby is harder than American football.  UFC used to be really interesting while Gracie was around, now its all the same. its all MMA, i wana see the different styles again. 

English and European sports are much better than American.

 

Posted By Smith1 on 06/20/2006 11:54 AM

English and European sports are much better than American.

 

I'll believe that when soccor becomes a full-contact sport requiring safety gear, padding, and the players get to carry wooden sticks.  Oh, wait... that's hockey.  Nevermind.

people play hockey with sticks and without padding. but in america you guys play with padding and on ice Doh, talk about taking a simple concept and then making it stupid..

so is this the 40k sports thread???

FT

someone mentioned Vallejo paints... are they any good - its about time to start painting my lil dudes and i was going to go buy Vallejo - cause they a hell of a lot cheaper locally than the GW stuff. I think about half the price. So PLEASE if vallejo are crap i need to know b4 wasting money and ruining my guys.

ps. i drilled my first bolters, flamers and assault canon today - well "drill" is such a neat word - more like gouged with a blade.

Vallejo paints are very nice, and color match with GW paints well.  I switched over about six months ago and couldn't be happier.

i dont think we get valeejo paints in the uk,  damn,  i would rather buy non GW paints if they are sme quality /colour but cheaper.

Mind you those that call it Futbol or Football are the same ones that break down fences on the pitch, and throw pee on their own players, or just shoot off signal flares at their own team...........
I grew up in Europe and I must say that no matter what you call it, many (not all mind you) fans of "proper" football are savages.

That crap doesn't fly in the States.

 

Oh, and I use a knife to poke a nice centered hole, then I drill the barrels our with a pinvice.

Posted By ironkodiak on 06/20/2006 5:04 PM

I grew up in Europe and I must say that no matter what you call it, many (not all mind you) fans of "proper" football are savages.

That crap doesn't fly in the States.

 

Actually its a few that are savages and as for that sort of thing not flying in the states what do you expect from a country that shoots first and then asks questions??

 

 

If you want soccer to be called football then what shall we call football and why did you refer football to football if you didnt like the name football to be used as football?
Because we dont have a name for football other than football! So we'll refer to football as football and you can refer your football as football.
We're americans, we enjoy screwing up the world. You use metrics, we use Imperial. You say football, we say soccer.
So unless you have a name for football that is used by everyone including the U.S. please go away.


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I hardly ever drill gun barrels, yes they do look nice. But I AM orks, so its like yeahhh... no, Im not doing that. I dont even have a drill, I proxy a drill with a nail-scissor and an exacto knife.

Handball

 

yeah call your version of football handball as thats what it is, Doh. besides we invented normal football and the americans made their own slow version which they play with there hands yet call football?? thats dumb, CALL it HANDBALL.

is it not easier to drill the gun barrels out with a drill rather than use a knife to do it, you get a better result with the drill thing that GW sell.

Drill, drill, drill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always drill, its a simple way to add a bit of "realism" to the weapons. To me, models without drilled barrels look incomplete.

Use a pin vise, its much easier than a knife, and much safer than a dremmel for such a small area.

Posted By beef on 06/20/2006 7:40 PM

Actually its a few that are savages and as for that sort of thing not flying in the states what do you expect from a country that shoots first and then asks questions??

 

There's a difference between shooting first, and not having the stones to shoot at all.

As for a new name.......

Problem is we already have a handball.  It's racquetball with just your hands.  How about smash ball!?!

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On my plasme weapons, I drill just the tip (about a mm down) and paint it to look white hot then fade out from there.

Posted By Smith1 on 06/18/2006 4:31 AM

What you Americans call 'Football' is really Rugby but with padding and protection because you don't want to put yourselves through full contact.

I have won this argument.

P.S.  :mad: Please don't call England 'insignificant'.

We obviously have a far greater country than you, as we once ruled mosts of the world and some still show that they are allies.

What hav you guys ever owned? Oh yeah, an army that likes to shoot each other!

 

Bush rides Blaire like the guy did Paris in the video.    You guys are like the french but with a slightly cooler history.  Past your prime and kneels to the true king.

More input on how to drill the barrels.  Im excited to try.  I have a pin vice and a dremel. 

Use a 1.0 - 2.0 mm drill bit depending on how big you want the hole in the bolters to be. Use the pin vice and NOT the dremel, unless you have absolute control over the thing, even then don't use it. Just use the pin vice and take your time. Start by using the tip of a hobby knife to mark the center of the hole to be drilled. This will keep the bit from slipping causing you to drill off center. Once you have the "pilot mark", drill to just about where the barrel comes out from the body. Then drill the sides of the barrel out. Don't worry about a pilot mark here, since you already have a hole to start from.

I can't believe this thread hasn't been shut down over all this b!^@#ing over who is better than who. It looks like the freakin' school playground with everyone trying to act like bad a$$es. All because someone said soccer. Big deal. That's what we call it. We have different terms for other things, like hood = bonnet, etc. Get over it. Poor guy just wanted to ask about how to make his models better, not start a flame fest. Hell, Paul Jr. and Sr. don't even argue this much on american chopper. Just shows how close our two countries really are. An ocean apart, yet we still act the same.

Smith1: "What hav you guys ever owned?"

Well, you guys about 200 something years ago. Apparently Mel Gibson was involved. It was this whole thing about dumping tea in a harbor or something. I don't really know for sure since I'm a west coast guy myself. I think this all went down on the other side of the country. All I know is that if we had lost we would all be speaking english right now. Man, that was a close one!

Actually bristish history goes back a hell of a lot longer than american history. as for Bush and Blair, nost people here did not vote. maybe thats why he got elected, however your contry is run by a complete moron, he is a joke, the scary thing is thathe actuall won by a majority and people actually buy his crap. atleast here we all know blair talks crap and is bush's little (female dog). you guys think bush is some sorta war hero. The war on terror my arse.

beef: "Actually bristish history goes back a hell of a lot longer than american history."

It does? Here's the timeline as I have pieced it together from 3rd grade history, sugar packets, and television commercials.

2 AD: Stonehenge is built and Native Americans discover interesting things to do with mushrooms. The following years become kind of hazy.

1492: Christopher Columbus moves to Florida because of their great retirement communities. The British laugh when he sails off the edge of the world never to be heard from again. John Wayne is formed from solid rock near the Grand Canyon.

1796: The British become sick of watching episodes of Knight Rider and Riptide that seem to never leave sindication. They leave the American colonies which have formed into 3 distinct parts; NBC, ABC, and CBS.

1912: The British wear smooshy helmets and the Germans wear spiky helmets. This causes a war to break out that consumes most of Europe. The Americans are tired of killing each other so they get on a boat and kill some people over there.

1940: The Americans are busy creating a light refreshing beer that can eliminate taste while simultaneously enhancing the attractiveness of most people. It is a huge success. The Gemans notice that the British are still wearing smooshy helmets so they attack them again. After the 'American' Football season has ended the Americans send John Wayne over to kill the Germans. The Americans suggest the British stop wearing smooshy helmets.

1960-Present: George Bush known then as "The Beer Baron" decides to run the country. The Americans all think it's a pretty good idea. Linda Blair stars in the exorcist and scares everyone in this dimension and the 3 surrounding dimensions. She vows to be no one's female dog. The British decide that it's time to make some music and change the way teenagers spend their time forever. Meanwile in America Satan manifests on the Ed Sullivan show in the form of Elvis Presley. America and Britain get together at O'gallager's on Broadway and become the best of friends while drinking one night. Currently, America is a construction company foreman. Britain is an insurance company executive. They still keep in touch and get together a few times a year.

I have a drillpress with lathe-chuck guide for drilling out plastic bolters.

Pop the chuck in...drop in a bolter...twist a knob...pull down a level...twist a knob (the other direction)...pull out bolter.

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

The question is, why wouldn't you drill out your kinetic weapons?

Posted By FlatlanderBoss2.0 on 06/22/2006 10:27 AM
I have a drillpress with lathe-chuck guide for drilling out plastic bolters.

Pop the chuck in...drop in a bolter...twist a knob...pull down a level...twist a knob (the other direction)...pull out bolter.

Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

The question is, why wouldn't you drill out your kinetic weapons?

you are the drill maester! yeh it looks so much cooler drilled out - question: i modded a storm bolter onto my librarian as a fist mounted weapon - it has one large barrel as opposed to two rounded barrels... do i try to make a curve to seperate the barrels? or just trim the tip a bit and then curve or do i just drill/poke/gouge two holes?

Glaive Company Co - that was damn funny... (your own or did you get that somewhere?) my county's history goes a little different

South Africa
beggining of time until about 1500AD - coupla bushmen run around naked, dance around campfires, eat some animals and wander along the beaches of the western cape

1652 - Some dutch guys rock up in a giant canoe and decide to plant some vegetables and bring some cows out
- the bushmen steal the cows and the dutch shoot them

1806 - the british, having invented "smooshy helmets" and thought how terribly smart they were, arrive in South Africa and decide to keep it
- they further decide that since there are so many black people no one will notice if the shoot a whole lot of them, this makes the black people rather, and quite jusifyably angry... for the next coupla a years the whites and black kill each other

1899 - the boers (afrikaaners / decendants of dutch, german, french) decide the english "smooshy helmets" are just too ridiculous and go to war... the british invent concentration camps but finally agree to leave South Africa to the boers. Having witnesses the rest of the worlds answer to local populous the afrikaners persecute the black people and try to kill as many as they can... america and britian (somehow forgetting about the slaughter of the Zulu & Xhosa in South Africa, Indians in India and Native Americans in America) say this is a bad thing so they stop killing black people and create Apartheid. Which doesn't solve anything and black and white people still try to kill one another - only it is now legal???

1994 - South Africans wake up and say - hey we're all just people lets all be friends - Mandela becomes president - South Africa goes on to win World Cup Rugby and Cricket in the following years, the economy booms...

today - nada!

ironking: "your own or did you get that somewhere?"

All that I type is origional my friend. ...unless I stole it from the Simpsons, or my own taped copies of Three's Company.

FlatlanderBoss2.0:

Dude, that's like cheating! You mean that your weapons actually have their holes centered in the barrel and not offset in direct proportion to alcohol consumption? Shame on you. Now, go back there and break a tiny drill bit off into your index finger like the rest of us!

Glaive Company CO: "All that I type is origional my friend"

well then you should be a writer! that little history of your country thing is awesomely funny.

dont know about drill bits - but i did have the broken tip of a scalpel/blade thing in my thumb!

i cant believe peopel use the scalpals, how do you get an even hole all the way through?? i drill all the way through the sides and then through the front.

oh hell i only make holes in the front of the barrel - haven't even started drilling the "cross-hole" through the the barrel on the side... that i will have to get a tiny drill for.

First I put a small indentation in the front with a hobby knife, careful to make sure it's centered. That's when I use the pin vice to drill the hole. I always drill the cross holes also.


By far the hardest part, though, is trying to space the holes evenly on storm bolters. That being said... it's not THAT hard.

it looks best when you drill from the sides and the front

I'll give it a whirl in a little while. I have a whole bunch of bolters to go through.

After all the bluster I do have much love and respect for the English. I do think some of the world politics are hilarious though. BTW I voted Libertarian .

Dude, that's like cheating! You mean that your weapons actually have their holes centered in the barrel and not offset in direct proportion to alcohol consumption? Shame on you. Now, go back there and break a tiny drill bit off into your index finger like the rest of us!

Why do you think I automated the process my friend?

I wish I used my set-up more though...I end up usually drilling weapons out at  my desk while on hold on the phone.