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Made in ca
Wicked Wych With a Whip




I want rules that make sense for terrain and I want to put my Succubus on a Jet bike.
   
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot




USA

I asked for lower prices in general, fixes to the Renegades and Heretics Index, Terrain, and general overall more tight rules writing and editing.

The prices make it nearly impossible for high schoolers and middle schoolers to get into this. I'm a high schooler and have had luck with several years of birthday, christmas and work money put towards the hobby, but those less fortunate are really screwed there, and so was I for a long while.

"For the dark gods!" - A traitor guardsmen, probably before being killed. 
   
Made in gb
Fixture of Dakka







That was a lot of survey to complete - still, I feel like I've done my part.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
Made in pl
Fixture of Dakka




 Sir Heckington wrote:
I asked for lower prices in general, fixes to the Renegades and Heretics Index, Terrain, and general overall more tight rules writing and editing.

The prices make it nearly impossible for high schoolers and middle schoolers to get into this. I'm a high schooler and have had luck with several years of birthday, christmas and work money put towards the hobby, but those less fortunate are really screwed there, and so was I for a long while.

I have to wait till my 18th birthday to get any substential money, and that is years away from now. Buying 1 box per 3 months does not make it easy to improve an army or collect a new one.

If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. 
   
Made in ie
Battleship Captain





GW aren't going to lower prices. Better to say you want better 3rd party retailer availability so that you can get more of their stuff for discounted prices.


 
   
Made in gb
Horrific Hive Tyrant





 Sim-Life wrote:
GW aren't going to lower prices. Better to say you want better 3rd party retailer availability so that you can get more of their stuff for discounted prices.


There do seem to be more and more kits only available direct from GW. Pretty annoying.
   
Made in gb
Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

 Stux wrote:
 Sim-Life wrote:
GW aren't going to lower prices. Better to say you want better 3rd party retailer availability so that you can get more of their stuff for discounted prices.


There do seem to be more and more kits only available direct from GW. Pretty annoying.


I think part of that is simply the economics of GW's current production situation. It's a lot lot easier to keep up if they hold back a large number of lines to direct order only and thus only have to produce and store locally; rather than produce, ship and store in a lot more stores where some might sit on shelves for ages. I do think sometimes GW needs to look at specific armies and see that some are not selling, but at the same tiime most of the army core is direct order only - although often when they do a new tome/codex this does get revised now and then.

Another aspect is that GW's inventory is huge and even their own stores can't actually hold it all in practical levels, so, again, cutting back to a selection on direct only makes sense. So long as they keep a proportion of each army individually and direct order only it works for GW and all the direct only stuff will generate increased revenue for them (if they get their numbers right on the balance between general and direct only) over being shipped to 3rd parties.

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3D Printing, hobbying and model fun! 
   
Made in gb
Horrific Hive Tyrant





 Overread wrote:
 Stux wrote:
 Sim-Life wrote:
GW aren't going to lower prices. Better to say you want better 3rd party retailer availability so that you can get more of their stuff for discounted prices.


There do seem to be more and more kits only available direct from GW. Pretty annoying.


I think part of that is simply the economics of GW's current production situation. It's a lot lot easier to keep up if they hold back a large number of lines to direct order only and thus only have to produce and store locally; rather than produce, ship and store in a lot more stores where some might sit on shelves for ages. I do think sometimes GW needs to look at specific armies and see that some are not selling, but at the same tiime most of the army core is direct order only - although often when they do a new tome/codex this does get revised now and then.

Another aspect is that GW's inventory is huge and even their own stores can't actually hold it all in practical levels, so, again, cutting back to a selection on direct only makes sense. So long as they keep a proportion of each army individually and direct order only it works for GW and all the direct only stuff will generate increased revenue for them (if they get their numbers right on the balance between general and direct only) over being shipped to 3rd parties.


I do understand all that, it is very true. But it doesn't stop it being quite frustrating, and making me at time reluctant to spend money on GW at all due to the barrier to accessing specific products in their range.
   
Made in us
Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot




Hanoi, Vietnam.

 The Phazer wrote:
And asked endlessly about tournaments which I'm just not interested in.
That did seem to be the overwhelming theme of this year's questions. This would seem to indicate a keen interest on Games Workshop's behalf to get more heavily involved in serious organized tournaments. I wouldn't be surprised if the High Lords of Nottingham had seen the massive revenue streams being generated by the eSports scene, and started getting "notions" about the potential of Tabletop Sports™.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Yep, that's long. Wasn't too impressed by the endless questions on events, without any real way to explain exactly what I don't like about them except in quite tangential fashion.

Mainly complained about prices and balance. It was annoying they didn't allow you to say why you don't play some of their games - it was just "do you play AoS? No. OK, bye." Seems like that would be valuable info to me. Similar to the WD section. Lost of questions but none that really seemed to get to the heart of the problems that magazine has for me.
   
Made in gb
Lethal Lhamean




Birmingham

 Overread wrote:
 Stux wrote:
 Sim-Life wrote:
GW aren't going to lower prices. Better to say you want better 3rd party retailer availability so that you can get more of their stuff for discounted prices.


There do seem to be more and more kits only available direct from GW. Pretty annoying.


I think part of that is simply the economics of GW's current production situation. It's a lot lot easier to keep up if they hold back a large number of lines to direct order only and thus only have to produce and store locally; rather than produce, ship and store in a lot more stores where some might sit on shelves for ages. I do think sometimes GW needs to look at specific armies and see that some are not selling, but at the same tiime most of the army core is direct order only - although often when they do a new tome/codex this does get revised now and then.

Another aspect is that GW's inventory is huge and even their own stores can't actually hold it all in practical levels, so, again, cutting back to a selection on direct only makes sense. So long as they keep a proportion of each army individually and direct order only it works for GW and all the direct only stuff will generate increased revenue for them (if they get their numbers right on the balance between general and direct only) over being shipped to 3rd parties.

My biggest problem along these lines is that many factions even have basic troops that are direct only. I've made it clear that there are people who will not even touch a line if you can't pick up their most basic of units off the shelf.
   
Made in au
Calm Celestian




I asked for assassin like rules to run my Inquisitor with my Sisters. We'll see if that happens...

   
Made in us
Damsel of the Lady




I asked for:

-Battlescribe like tool.
-Forgeworld Sisters of Silence rules.
-Marine points reductions.
-Automatically updating digital rules.

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Made in us
Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta






did my part, basically begging for better balancing on points based on unit performance and presence on win rates in tournament play rather than just what somebody feels a unit should be. suggested an app like warmahordes uses and in game tracking to provide data on win rates to help with quarterly points adjustments.

10000 points 7000
6000
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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




I asked for a redo of the 1ksons codex. Not gonna happen but whatever may as well ask. I also picked the points update every 6 months instead of yearly. I also was not in favor of the random turns in the AOS portion of the survey as that one rule ruins the entire AOS rule set for me.
   
Made in gb
Mighty Vampire Count






UK

Combine Marine Chaters rules - reduce the mountain of bloat
Less emphasise on Marines / Stormcast - keep doing other stuff

Vampire handmaiden of Neferata and mortal minons for Shadespire

I forgot to ask for female Fyreslayers and Overlords :(


I AM A MARINE PLAYER

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction 
   
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Killer Klaivex




The dark behind the eyes.

Headlss wrote:
I want rules that make sense for terrain and I want to put my Succubus on a Jet bike.


And I want wings for my Archon.


That said, I'd settle for having Corsairs back.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
Made in us
Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer





Mississippi

I put in my two cents. They’re driving me away with their pricing and I have absolutely no love for tournament play and how it embitters the community well.

Also asked for PDF electronic versions - I have no use for their overpriced “enhanced” versions and I can’t stand epubs. I just want simple e-versions I can pull up on my iPad when I’m away from my bookshelf copies. If they’re worried about piracy, it’s a misplaced fear - the book are already out there and can be found in less than five minutes. I’d just rather “official” versions.

Also, in the same vein it is an absolute shame that they didn’t - and still don’t - have an official program for army building 40K and Kill Team lists.

I also asked for more Kill Team/Blackstone Fortress content. I’d especially love a supplement/article for making your own heroes, and more 40K factions converted to enemies to face in the fortress. Blackstone is the one thing from GW that has my attention right now.

Unfortunately, I forgot to pine for Plastic Eldar Aspects (PEA). It’s one of those last things that might get me to buy more 40K in large quantities - but in the end the price would probably dissuade me, as I already have a 2E metal army I haven’t even managed to play yet.

It never ends well 
   
Made in us
Clousseau





East Bay, Ca, US

I asked them, if they're going to squat the marine lines and replace with Primaris, why not let them go out in a blaze of glory and be good before they're shut down and replaced?

I also asked for Guard nerfs.

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 Galas wrote:
I remember when Marmatag was a nooby, all shiney and full of joy. How playing the unbalanced mess of Warhammer40k in a ultra-competitive meta has changed you

Bharring wrote:
He'll actually *change his mind* in the presence of sufficient/sufficiently defended information. Heretic.
 
   
Made in nz
Cog in the Machine




New Zealand

Did my part,

It was long, and hopefully it will be worth it in the end.

Building towards 1000pts
 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





I wish there was a way to go back and edit your responses or a "I took the survey but I thought of something else I wanted to say" button, I forgot to complain about Space Marine Transport Segregation.

   
Made in gb
Nasty Nob





UK

That was a very long survey, nearly packed it in after a while however I didn't.

Things I brought up,
1. Pricing makes me actively seek out second hand deals. It's just a bit too strong most of the time, and tbf a modest drop in pricing would probably see me buy more models.

2. 40k App. Something like battlescribe, but officially supported with updated rules for the codexs you own with quick refernece links and a user friendly interface for competitive play.

3. 40k Combat needs sorting out. To me, it's far to complicated. Too many dice rolls, too much movement, and far less rewarding for getting it right. It's a time vampire, and it needs to be as simple as the shooting phase.

I also talked about faction balance and points costing. It'll be interesting if they take on board some of the feedback, but we'll just have to wait and see.

"All their ferocity was turned outwards, against enemies of the State, foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals" - Orwell, 1984 
   
Made in au
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan





I went in on the pricing. It's doubtful its going to change anything, but yeah it's honest feedback that here it feels like 9 outta 10 people just buy everything recast. The prices in Australia are absurd and not only something that gets skipped out of practicality but also out of indignation. Nobody wants to support those prices.

P.S.A. I won't read your posts if you break it into a million separate quotes and make an eyesore of it. 
   
Made in au
Repentia Mistress





Another one here harping on the prices. Also found a lot of my feedback coming back to wanting more strategic rules and better terrain rules, cited Cities of Death terrain rules as a step in the right direction and that I missed firing arcs. Fixes to the largely useless/ignores morale phase.
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Greetings warrior brothers and battle sisters; I have performed my sacred duty to the Emperor of Man and invoked his Holy Inquisition.

But because I also occasionally exhibit heretical tendencies myself, I suggested that there never be another reset button so we can get some new armies so that xenos could finally soup with the rest of us- I was too polite to tell them if they hadn't done everything over again times from scratch we would have been there a decade ago.

Suggested that every faction should have at least one flyer and at least one super heavy.

Gave 'em a bit o' gears over prices too.

Praised interactions of scale and asked for Battlefleet Gothic. Suggested more tools for world and campaign builders.

Found a lot of questions hard to answer accurately; I found myself wondering about what they would infer from my answers based on the way the questions were asked and arranged, and wasn't afraid to push the boundaries of truth if I thought they'd take it the wrong way and use it to justify destroying the game.

The truth is that I feel like I'm in the golden age of the hobby- new models and rules for Sisters and Genestealer Cults in the same edition! Box sets to support the core game with interactions of scale, rules for multiple games in a single box AND tons of really cool minis at a substantial discount over what you'd pay in separates.

Given this feeling, I'd rather status quo than push too hard and have them throw it all in the fire and then have to wait more years as they rewrite everything they've already written 8 other times.
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





I was contemplating Titanicus and wondering if I'd buy any of it if they expanded into a re-release of epic. I don't think I would.

Battlefleet Gothic though? With proper "this unit can only turn this many degrees at a time and has to move at least X inches straight ahead before it can turn again" maneuvering, and actual meaningful firing arcs? That's a game I'd be sorely tempted to buy into.

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Made in au
Freaky Flayed One



Sydney, Australia

 Giantwalkingchair wrote:
Another one here harping on the prices. Also found a lot of my feedback coming back to wanting more strategic rules and better terrain rules, cited Cities of Death terrain rules as a step in the right direction and that I missed firing arcs. Fixes to the largely useless/ignores morale phase.

Yep, here too. I would happily spend more if prices were down to something approaching "reasonable", but as it is, I'll wait, pick up things second hand, or find an overseas seller who is still willing to ship to Australia.
   
Made in au
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan





Glad to see so many Australians speaking up about the pricing. It's not even remotely fair or realistic.

P.S.A. I won't read your posts if you break it into a million separate quotes and make an eyesore of it. 
   
Made in ca
Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion





 Ginjitzu wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
And asked endlessly about tournaments which I'm just not interested in.
That did seem to be the overwhelming theme of this year's questions. This would seem to indicate a keen interest on Games Workshop's behalf to get more heavily involved in serious organized tournaments. I wouldn't be surprised if the High Lords of Nottingham had seen the massive revenue streams being generated by the eSports scene, and started getting "notions" about the potential of Tabletop Sports™.


Honestly GW is proably the one company that could possiably do that. 40k especially has a wide number of people who "know about and like the world" who may not play themselves. they are in a unique situation that way. Although I don't think the rules are tight eneugh to really be a good canidate for that.

Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two 
   
Made in jp
Longtime Dakkanaut





How did it end for people? Mine just stopped after I hit submit. Tried it both on my phone via hotspot and on my home network and it did the same both times.

But now I'm hearing that others had different results.
   
 
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