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I think competitive 40k is in general a lot more like high end poker than a miniature war game. (Although I'm not sure what the quintessential miniature war game is these days.)

I think the problems with the e-sports aspect are largely money related. I agree that streams involving a top-down camera that will spend half the time out of focus with commentators trying to remember special rules and fail to see dice rolls isn't that great. But I really enjoyed the LVO finals last year.

I think you can learn a lot about how 40k is played and remove some the delusions about how there's no skill, you just bring meta army and win cos meta. Similar story with Poker really.

Poker is competive game. GW games aren't. The two aren't even closely related.

(oh and this thread is massive thread necromancy)

Please do not necro old threads.