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2020/03/26 19:49:12
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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No, it's no trouble switching such automated surveys on and off or remove from a system.
Being an IT/office worker when not between jobs I know how easy surveys are to manage - they're MFI - click here, add your questions and text, click here, few more clicks bit more info, couple of clicks more, let your results roll in. Job done until you want to deal with the results.
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2020/03/26 19:51:44
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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Did you get to read the advice, or are you distracted by an argument on Tesco feedback?
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2020/03/26 19:53:10
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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Orlanth wrote:Did you get to read the advice, or are you distracted by an argument on Tesco feedback?
The advice here, if that is what you have referred to, is appreciated and I have taken it on board, however most of it is not possible given my specific situation.
My household cannot afford to use take outs. Shopping around costs more, multiple delivery charges stack up, and delivery services are already over burdened, if they've not closed. We simply cannot afford to do that.
I cannot afford to buy a mask, not one that would be effective and is a genuine item on sale, the advice given also has stated that masks are of no use. Even if I did have one those who are in the "at risk" group, 1.5m or more of us, are being told not to go out, under no circumstances. That advice hasn't changed since day 0 it seems. Even though I may have to I'm not sure it's wise to. I would like to adhere to that as much as possible, if I have to go out I will - but I shouldn't have to go out given that is the current advice for those "at risk".
My GP surgery does not arrange medication deliveries - the pharmacy I use can/will do that if they have capacity, hopefully by April 9th-ish things will have calmed down somewhat and they will have.
Where you are in the UK it may be different to here in Braintree, Essex. Your personal situation may be different. I don't know.
If the supermarkets got their act together people wouldn't have to be contacting churches etc. They're already over burdened when there isn't a crisis. I know that having volunteered until recently in that sector.
Saw a lady in Cambridge (I think) on the local news, 72, stuck in a very similar situ as I am.
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2020/03/26 20:07:00
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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Rob Lee wrote: Orlanth wrote:Did you get to read the advice, or are you distracted by an argument on Tesco feedback?
The advice here, if that is what you have referred to, is appreciated and I have taken it on board, however most of it is not possible given my specific situation.
My household cannot afford to use take outs.
Ok, please try reading the advice carefully. I didnt mention take outs.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2020/03/26 20:08:11
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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No, someone else mentioned take outs, Amazon, couple of other options where delivery charges will stack up. I have read your advice, it is appreciated.
I have the money to book deliveries as I would normally with Tesco or another supermarket (if I were able to register with them and they aren't in the same situ re. deliveries), and do my normal shop or slightly less if necessary.
Also if I rely on church groups etc. that will take away from those who don't have the money to do their normal shopping. Like the NHS workers, these people are going to get burnt out, if they aren't already, with the flood of people coming to them.
Just need Tesco et. al to start sorting their proverbial out instead of sending seemingly pointless surveys.
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2020/03/26 20:14:55
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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However you can get the NHS to deliver your moethers medicines and it is not inappropriate for your parish vicar to do so also. Church is cancelled, but parish work is not, it is classified as care.
You were desperate for supplies, or so your made out in the OP. This is a realistic way to get your perscriptions in, and maybe some food is you are isolating. Do a semi-dead drop a yard outside the front door for mutual protection.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2020/03/26 20:22:26
Subject: Re:I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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At the time of writing the OP I didn't know what was happening going forwards and no info seemed to be available.
The point was not as much to focus on me, but to ask that others consider others in the same or similar boat - look out for anyone you may know who is in the same or similar boat. There's plenty of them currently.
I'm a member of several model forums, and there seems little regard for someone in my situation on most of them, just people, with means, selfishly carrying on with modelling as though nothing is going on. Good for their mental health.
I had hoped the community spirit we're seeing in places in the UK would translate in some way to the online model making community and it hasn't really ( I don't include Dakka in that statement). I have a subscription to one that I'm considering withdrawing, partly because they stifle any discussions like this - anyone discussing the crisis, even if it's just trying to add some much needed humour, is castigated by other members for doing so and the forum owner shuts/deletes the threads. The owner of that site charges £4 per month/£40 pa. A member has announced that he is having to cancel his subscription, doesn't want to, but will have to. No sign, currently, of a generous gesture from members, or the forum owner, who may have the means to make one (I wish I was in a position to help)...
As for me, 4 days on, and I feel specific info is still a little thin on the ground. Food deliveries from the likes of Tesco, as I would normally have, when I shall need one in 1.5 to 2 weeks time are still up in the air. Also as I said, as I have the money to pay for items that I would normally order, but not enough for shopping around and incurring multiple delivery charges, or a bit less if I can't get my usual amount of items for 2 weeks, it would be wrong of me to take services away from others more in need by contacting church groups etc., if any exist in Braintree, Essex. I know how thin on the ground such groups resources usually are.
I have established how myself and my mother can get our medication delivered - if there is capacity for the pharmacy to get it to us. Mine is due in about 2 weeks, my mother's has been picked up today and she has it. So, so far that's working OK.
It's also hugely frustrating, I could be out there volunteering at community groups (already existing health issues allowing), if any actually exist in my area, boxing up food or at the very least keeping any records if any are being kept or similar admin tasks if any are being done. But I cannot due to my mother being "at risk", as well as myself, and having been told now by govt. and scientists to remain at home, or else...
Some potentially good news however has apparently emerged tonight - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52051498
Edited to add info/thoughts and correct/adjust grammar/spelling,
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2020/03/27 07:53:24
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Since there is still only mention that Tesco and similar exist...
Skinnereal wrote:Local shops near us are offering deliveries, and have been far better stocked than the cleaned-out supermarkets. Hoarders seem too have overlooked them.
This referred to a local Londis. Other small corner-shops are doing similar things. Ring them. They are not huge supermarket types, and have more focussed resources to handle times like these.
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2020/03/27 19:38:45
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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[MOD]
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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My father has been put on a priority list for deliveries from Sainsbury's. He's 92 and has underlying health problems and my mother is 83 and has underlying health problems. So this is entirely appropriate.
I mention this because it shows that there is some organisation going on around prioritising deliveries to shielded, vulnerable people.
So I think you, Rob Lee, should be able to ask about getting on this kind of priority list with your Tesco. Have you contacted your GP to ask about a letter or something?
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2020/03/27 22:14:50
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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Good news then Killkrazy, hope your father and mother stay safe and well.
I haven't contacted my GP yet (mother and I use the same GP), the govt. advice is to wait for a letter, it should arrive by 29th March...
I was doing a bit more research very early this morning, and apparently (out of the health issues my mother and I have) it's only severe asthma that counts. The gov. uk site is vague on what severe asthma is however Asthma UK have had a list, and the medication I take is/was on that list. So, my mother appears actually to not be in the "high risk" group, just me.
I say have/had is/was because strangely the list of medications that was present on Asthma UK has now either been moved, or removed.
Information seems to be changing so fast, and is quite unhelpful to people who just don't know where to even start looking, like me, and I'm a very IT/internet literate office worker.
The amount of misinformation or half information out there also doesn't help.
Links, if anyone else here wants to look at Asthma UK, as I understand they're the leading Asthma organisation/charity in the UK (I thought that was Asthma Research or some other named organisation though, always used to be?!) -
https://www.asthma.org.uk
https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/coronavirus-covid-19/#Shielding
There is also a register on the gov. uk site to sign up to, can't recall if I posted the link here, haven't checked whilst typing this, but here's the link anyway - https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus-extremely-vulnerable
It is genuine, you can go on the official gov. uk page and search for it if you don't trust my link use the terms "coronavirus extremely vulnerable" in the search box, without the quote marks. That page, last time I checked it, does appear to be falling down the list of results however.
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2020/03/27 23:30:15
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Originally you seemed to be on the very vunerable list if your asthma required regular steroid treatment, which would include the standard 'preventer' inhalers in brown and purple, but not the 'relievers' in blue,
I thought I would qualify and tried sigining up
but that now seems to have changed with the very vulnerable that are going to get on the government list seem to only include those who need regular oral steroids like prednisolone not just inhaled ones which just leave you vunerable and told to self isolate but dependent on sourcing your own supplies from online ordering/volunteer groups
so my application was rejected
(now whether this is actually a change in policy, or just a tidying up of poorly written initial advise and over simplification for the cameras I don't know
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2020/03/28 01:51:57
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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Sorry to hear that Orlando.
I've not heard anything about my mother's or my own application on that register yet.
So, who knows?!
The advice on Asthma UK still states, or they did last night, that some preventative inhalers, such as those containing Seretide (that's the brand name variant, mine is called Combisal, same mediciation), count under severe asthma, but they do mention high dosage only, but they don't define what is high dosage. I think that's the sticking point now, and probably the reason they removed/moved the list of inhalers that was present on their shielding article.
Will have to see if I can get through to my GP on Monday and see what they say then.
I get the feeling the govt. are quietly backtracking.
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2020/03/28 02:27:23
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Corticosteroids (like Prednisolone) are immunosuppressive, and people who are on immunosuppressive therapies are absolutely on the list.
However, the immunosuppressive qualities take several weeks of regular and quite high dosage to take effect, so, and I am speculating here, those used in acute treatment for their anti inflammatory properties are unlikely to have any detrimental effect from the perspective of the virus.
Just two years ago I'd have been plum in the bullseye, but having had most of the faulty bits cut out, I'm now free of any medication most of the time. I'm still being fefensive though.
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2020/03/28 03:28:05
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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Skinnereal wrote:Since there is still only mention that Tesco and similar exist...
Skinnereal wrote:Local shops near us are offering deliveries, and have been far better stocked than the cleaned-out supermarkets. Hoarders seem too have overlooked them.
This referred to a local Londis. Other small corner-shops are doing similar things. Ring them. They are not huge supermarket types, and have more focussed resources to handle times like these.
Appreciate the advice.
For me personally and my household - we simply cannot shop around. These small shops cost more, the one's in our area do anyway, I know this from experience of using them in the past. My mother and I have a fixed budget, it does not have the capacity for spending x here, y there, z elsewhere and incurring more food costs, let alone delivery charges, than normal. We also don't buy brand names, for example Coke, where we can - it's 4x the price or more of a supermarket own brand cola. Other branded stuff, which these smaller shops would predominantly carry will cost more than the supermarket own brand stuff we usually buy.
Again appreciate the advice, hope it is of use to someone else. No offence meant.
I also apologies if at times I come across as an a-hole.
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2020/03/28 10:24:19
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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I think you are very much trying not to come off in the wrong way, and it shows so don’t worry (one of your posts further up you edited 49 times! I assume trying to get it worded the way you mean and as not to give the wrong impression etc )
As to everyone in general, and you if you didn’t already look into it.
The Facebook groups popping up have been great.
The one for Ipswich that I’m in, I see lots of people posting for help with their needs, and many replies so they get it.
And lots of posts just saying “ I live in IPxx, anyone in the local area need anything etc”
Does Braintree have any going?
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2020/03/29 06:36:34
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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None useufl that I have yet found. And none that I have seen going door to door even just dropping off information leaflets such as has been highlighted on the news from some parts of the UK.
To be honest, despite being a very IT literate office worker, I find Facebook, Twitter, et al rather a mess when it comes to searching for anything but people that I already know. Too many accounts, too many vague descriptions and avatars. Too many pages. Too many of them not appearing legit or reliable. I did find one last night, but it looked like it was just sharing other people's posts, including Essex County Council's post about how in their Witham, Essex hub they are packing boxes ready for delivery to those vulnerable they have identified (I'll add "so far", because I'm sure they do not know everyone who is or should be in the "high risk" group that may need assistance).
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2020/03/29 08:18:00
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Do you still have war gaming miniatures given you’re on here? My first suggestion, if there is anything you can’t afford but believe is critical to help your situation in this crisis is to sell your miniatures and use the money to buy things you need. Might be a painful experience but it’s better than the alternative I’m sure.
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2020/03/30 03:09:17
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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I have lots of unpainted miniatures, I was working my way through Warhammer Quest 1995 core set, had about 60 to go last count. Space Hulk Genestealers set and Deathwing Terminators (in place of the Space Hulk Blood Angel Terminators) to paint. I've almost completed a magnetised Dark Angels Deathwing Master in Terminator Armour, my first attempt using contrast paint, just all the multiple arms to paint some bits to tidy up and/or redo. Have Necron Command Barge to light up and paint. Have a House Cawdor Necromunda gang to paint also.
I'd like to avoid selling any though, not that they would sell (tried selling some before this all kicked off). I had some miniatures on my ebay account for months and they didn't sell - I don't imagine that would change even under these circumstances.
There is also an issue of logistics. I don't want to go out unless absolutely necessary. Posting items someone may have bought on ebay is not essential in my book. Plus round my way buses are looking under threat, no car, physically can't walk into town. Wouldn't dare put my local Hermes guy at risk (we all have the same risk of catching Covid-19 according to the science) by having him collect either.
Good idea though.
Think getting consumables may start to become a problem, especially for airbrushing. IPA for example is already in short supply, gougers operating, ebay listings being bogus etc. Postal workers (heroes currently) catching Covid-19, or just getting burnt out.
Still got tap water though, so can use that with anything that is water based, although not ideal.
Might have to do a lot of colour mixing also...
Trouble is, since this all kicked off, my mental state is such that I cannot sit down and paint at the moment, perhaps I should force myself but I can't even do that, and that is my usual "therapeutic" hobby.
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2020/03/30 06:03:26
Subject: I am being forced into isolation - a semi plea
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I know how you feel. I've been unable to write anything for weeks.
I've managed to get back into it by writing my feelings and experiences of the crisis. Chronicling my experiences and emotions gave me a feeling of control over things, and now I'm writing my fiction again and that's also therapeutic.
Maybe you could try drawing or painting something, like your home and the view from the windows. Just pencil sketches would be a place to start.
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