But IT is really an obsesion of Mordem and Slayer-fan. Like... you see a thread go "Man I would love for deathguard to have some cool new stratagems with psychic awakening" and then BAM "YOU'LL HAD COOL STRATAGEMS IF YOU WERE ROLLED BACK INTO CODEX CSM AND RENEGADES SHOULD BE IN C:SM BTW"
Amen to this. And I've pointed this out before, but for every thread where someone is screaming about rolling Tsons and
DG back into
CSM, I can point to another one where people (sometimes those very SAME people) are screaming "
CSM SUCK!" REDO THE BOOK", so it's even sillier.
Perhaps you and I put different stock into the weight of the word “obsession.” However, I assume we could both agree that using it in an argument is just an attack with the attempt to devalue an opponent’s credibility, no?
No. Almost every thread certain people post in becomes "ZOMG MY ARMY IS INVALIDATED ROLL TSONS AND
DG BACK IN THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN SEPARATED EVERYTHING THEY GOT SUCKS AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN
CSM IN THE FIRST PLACE". Every. Single. Thread. Sometimes, people's actions should be looked at as they really do damage their own credibility. They argue as though all the problems with the
CSM codex could be solved by rolling Tsons and
DG back into the
CSM codex, but in the same breath talk about how everything
DG and Tsons got by being rolled into their own books "sucks", and how
CSM also "suck" because they didn't get the loyalist treatment, so it becomes a circular argument of complaining just to complain. Admittedly, the split wasn't handled perfectly, and things absolutely got screwed up, but it is not anywhere near the dire situation these people claim it to be. Not everything is an ad-hominem or a strawman ... I mean it should tell you something that they bang this drum so often and so hard that it gets mentioned even when they aren't here ...
RE: The thread topic -
No offense to the
OP, but suggesting that people want their own codex because it's a "status symbol" probably says more about how the
OP views these things than anything else. In a million years, and of all the reasons someone might want their own codex, I don't think I'd ever have arrived at "It's a status symbol". We're playing a game of toy soldiers here. That just seems really silly.
I think it boils down to the basic fact that if you're telling me an army/subfaction that I like, could get a supplement and get new rules, new fluff (which has been slowly finding its way into some of the books), possible new models and some extra toys, I'm probably on board. The issue is that while I'm willing to bet 90% of the player base would say "yes" to that, they'd also complain that there are too many books and too much bloat. The issue is that it's almost never "MY Army" that's causing the problem. It's almost always someone else's. So really, what are you willing to give up if you feel that way? Because something has to give. Personally, I feel the more the better. I'm completely fine with Marines having sub-factions, and also fine with giving Xenos and Chaos their own subfactions where applicable because I like the variety. For me, where I start to get frustrated is when I have to bring more than two books. I'm fine with the idea of needing a main faction book and a small supplement, but when I need to bring a main faction book, a small supplement, a "campaign book" (or two), a white dwarf, and, and, and ... That's just too much, and it's frustrating because it's a trap
GW falls into every single time.
While I did enjoy the start of index
40k, myself and my group quickly started to get bored as a lot of the strategy in this edition comes not from the core rules, but rather from how the army rules are structured, and this weakness became obvious fairly quickly with the index books. I don't think I'd enjoy that game long term (unless something else could be done to the rule set). So I'm all for bringing on ALL the supplements. For every army. But let's make "campaign books" actual campaign books again (instead of stealth codex updates), and let's just stop with dropping rules randomly throughout all of the different publications. Honestly, I think the game has bigger issues than codex supplements anyway.
All this data is already available for free on the net, the problem is bringing printed rules is frown upon within the community, because people who paid top dollar for their minis/codex can't stand knowing that other stole it.
Fixed that for you. Not sure how encouraging IP theft really helps here.
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