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I think Admech: the models are awesome, the rules are fluffy, and they are a huge part of the lore. Runner-up for me is GSC, though I really really really wish it had been a catch-all "bad humans" book with rules for Renegades/Heretics, GSC, and maybe even Tau Auxiliaries. Could also roll PDF or adeptus arbites in there if you want something Imperium-aligned

Ynnari is least fav by a large margin.
Knights shouldn’t be an “army”.

Cults for the win.

I'm a big fan of the Custodes. While they may superficially appear to be "super" marines, I like that if you get into their lore they are so very different. They don't think like space marines and they generally don't act like space marines. They are also the only Imperial faction that knows what has been lost since the Horus Heresy. I just hope they get some more options for the army in the future. They are my favorite Imperial army in 40k.

BrianDavion wrote:
what they need to do is put out a Ynnari Codex, that is distinctly it's own thing, that runs a mix of CWE and DE units as well as some of their own stuff and yes this means not ALL the DE and CWE stuff, the only way ynnari will work is if they are willing to make them their own codex with their own faction.

I'd be down with restrictions/limits on what you can take out of which codex. The do need to have their own codex to really feel unique and not just smashing them together to get eldar soup. from both a narrative and gameplay point of view.

I like the idea of a race that's afraid of death finally embracing it and weaponizing it with they're psyker potential! that's what actually drew me to the faction to begin with and I hope they learn into it a little bit more.

Even as someone who dislikes the Ynnari, I think GW could well go the following route:

1 Use the Ynnari fluff to create brand new Aeldari units
2 Make the new units slightly better than their Asuryani/Drukhari equivalents
3 Allow those units to be included freely in Asuryani/Drukhari armies, as per Ynnari characters

Racerguy180 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
what they need to do is put out a Ynnari Codex, that is distinctly it's own thing, that runs a mix of CWE and DE units as well as some of their own stuff and yes this means not ALL the DE and CWE stuff, the only way ynnari will work is if they are willing to make them their own codex with their own faction.

I'd be down with restrictions/limits on what you can take out of which codex. The do need to have their own codex to really feel unique and not just smashing them together to get eldar soup. from both a narrative and gameplay point of view.

I like the idea of a race that's afraid of death finally embracing it and weaponizing it with they're psyker potential! that's what actually drew me to the faction to begin with and I hope they learn into it a little bit more.

I agree, I think my first restriction would be no wraith units. if the Ynnari are embracing death, it doesn't make sense for them to have soul stones to power wraiths. what I'd do is I'd make Ynnari completely stand alone with their own units bu borrow from the martial tradtions of both races. thus I'd release say a dark that's basicly dark reapers, but with some sort of dark eldar weaponry, and that sort of thing, a strange fusion of the two. but we're getting off topic

Deathwatch style unit with mixed aspect warriors would be awesome

It was a hard choice between Gene Stealer Cults and Death Watch, ultimately went with Gene Stealer Cults.

It's interesting having another "human like" army on the table that isn't guard. Someday I hope to get to fight them...

I voted for GSC.

My only problem with them is there is almost no reason to actually have any Genestealers in the army; Purestrains not getting any "chapter tactics" makes them lackluster.

Given the list choices, Genestealer Cults was an easy pick. I understand why they weren't included, but I think there is an argument to include Primaris Space Marines on the list too. Especially now that they have more than enough options to be fielded without leaning on Firstborn to fill in the gaps. Primaris play similar but all together different than Firstborn marines.

Curious what this poll would look like with Primaris on it. That's a new army whether one wants to admit it or not.

So... I have to pick AdMech. To me they were the holy grail of 40K forces, something that I thought we'd never see (along with Adeptus Custodes). Amazingly we got both.

I was so torn between AdMech and DG for the same reason. I figured AdMech was just too "out there" to ever get a model range, so I was over-the-moon when they came out, but I also felt the same way about DG. I figured the best we would ever get for that was something like the Plague Colony thing in "Traitor Legions" from 7th. So I voted DG, but AdMech was a VERY close second.

Admech, GSC and Knights are all in the running for me, but I have to give it to Admech. There is just something about the lore and look that is really attractive - cyborg monks with a machine fetish? Hell yeah, ticks all the right boxes to collect.

AdMech, they're a late addition to the game but look more 40k than any other range, including space marines. I'm not too familiar with them in game but they seem to have a nice mix of ranged, close combat and fast units, and a knight or two would fit beautifully, both aesthetically and in lore. Skitarii are a beautiful troop unit, I love the walkers and dunecrawlers and the new cavalry too. I'm a big fan, they look to me like a range that's been around forever and the look has been refined over the decades, but obviously they haven't which speaks highly of the design team

In fact looking over their models now makes me want to start a new project, but I have to stay strong. Maybe next time!

 harlokin wrote:
Even as someone who dislikes the Ynnari, I think GW could well go the following route:

1 Use the Ynnari fluff to create brand new Aeldari units
2 Make the new units slightly better than their Asuryani/Drukhari equivalents
3 Allow those units to be included freely in Asuryani/Drukhari armies, as per Ynnari characters

You mean...Primaris Eldar??

I'd like to thank you for adding Ynnari to the list, I'm still fairly new to the hobby but they're my fav for sure ♥

Ynnari have potential, but not while they're just a soup rule.

They need to be a distinct codex with their own playstyle and units.

 greyknight12 wrote:

 harlokin wrote:
Even as someone who dislikes the Ynnari, I think GW could well go the following route:

1 Use the Ynnari fluff to create brand new Aeldari units
2 Make the new units slightly better than their Asuryani/Drukhari equivalents
3 Allow those units to be included freely in Asuryani/Drukhari armies, as per Ynnari characters

You mean...Primaris Eldar??

Yup, sadly, that's exactly what it would be

Even though I don't play them, I'd probably have to go with Admech. Not least because they feel the most like an actual, new army.

DG and TS are fine, but they're still just branches of Chaos, including using units straight out of the CSM dex. Also not a fan of the focus on Special Characters.

Speaking of Special Characters, is Ynnari really considered a legitimate faction? Because all I see is 3 Special Characters. Everything else is 'Well go nudge Eldar/DE/Harlequins and see if they'll lend you something. But tell them that they have to first jump through a ridiculous number of hoops.'

Not that I object to Ynnari, I just wish they'd get some actual support. But the fact you currently can't even use their rules without including at least one of their sodding characters is just terrible design.

 Sasori wrote:
I really think SoB should have been included, for all intents and purposes they are pretty much a new army. Would have had my vote.

Are they though? Almost every single model in the previous 'codex' received an update and their roster received a few additions, but they're fundamentally the same army.

 vipoid wrote:
Even though I don't play them, I'd probably have to go with Admech. Not least because they feel the most like an actual, new army.

DG and TS are fine, but they're still just branches of Chaos, including using units straight out of the CSM dex. Also not a fan of the focus on Special Characters.

Speaking of Special Characters, is Ynnari really considered a legitimate faction? Because all I see is 3 Special Characters. Everything else is 'Well go nudge Eldar/DE/Harlequins and see if they'll lend you something. But tell them that they have to first jump through a ridiculous number of hoops.'

Not that I object to Ynnari, I just wish they'd get some actual support. But the fact you currently can't even use their rules without including at least one of their sodding characters is just terrible design.

I was VEEERY conflicted onto weather or not include Ynnari or not, I eventually did in part because some people would argue that if you discount a faction simply because it uses the same units as another army with differant rules and special chars then you should, by all rights, discount death watch so I decided to include em, given some people voted for them I consider that a decision that is justified.