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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

You sir are a gent! thanks for the kind encouragement and the appreciation! be assured 'tis recipricated!

anyway, as if you don't already know:



Latchford rubs hands in gleeful anticipation of some plastic kreig to convert into more yorkies!














the real hope is that, like the heavy intercessor and necrons, they will get seperate kits later and also (yet highly unlikely) that they come with options for valhallan or steellegion helmets/heads. thats something I've long said gw should do; a generic trencher's kit. very, very unlikely though.

I'dve thought that plastic steel legon made more sense against orks... I mean I know dkok is expensive but at least its technically available in good detail already. sl is not...
but nonetheless, plastic dkok! hells man! thants got to be good however it comes.
...and with anvil industries/victoria lamb heads and bits = happy OSJC!

please don't let it be another limited flash in the pan tease... yes it makes a quick buck, but it only serves to upset more than it pleases in the long run...

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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

well what a weekend for guard colectors eh? and orks for that matter (but thats a topic for another thread methinks...)

looks to me that the future of this regiment may well end up being based on plastic dkok troopers.
A good look at the sprues shows that the heads/hoses will indeed be seperate after-all, making the potential for conversion in this area a doddle... great news indeed.

might even be worth buying from scalpers if its a fair enough price... otherwise expect to wait over six months or whatever. still.

very exciting times.

so what of the old 39'thers at the min?

well, I fear I may have gone too far with the whole extra extra engineers.
but that may have something to do with the fact that ksg shotguns i'm waiting on, on anvil's website have been on "available in 4-8 weeks" for over two months now... sigh, damn covid and brexit shyte...
I'm not giving up on those by any means but I have no illusions I may well have to wait a LOT longer than expected to get my hands on those sexie shotguns afterall... perhaps I might even have some dkok to put them on by then! LOL

so not wanting to sit on a bunch of plate carrier torsos and puttee legs indefinately, when i've not money to waste on such things, I've decided instead to utilize them with those nice new carbine I designed:

inspired by the british wartime commandos, these guys are this army's interpritation of the elysian droptroops, albeit viewed through a dieselpunk lens. incorporating the molle vest designs of the heavily armoured grenadiers and the lighter tunics to suggest similarity with the elite stormtroopers, whilst still being basic guardsmen. these guys feature the nice puttee legs and brodie lids to keep the ww1/ww2 trenchy feel intact and also feature the elysian style lasguns and shoulderpads for the modern tactical aspect. the standout feature most of you will have noticed is the beret on the centre guy of the group.
this was a simple greenstuff sculpt as, one, I wanted him to be wearing the gasmask like the others and, two, I could not find any suitable beret heads for love nor money.
the simple additon of a scout rifle silencer on one trooper and some of 40k's more exotic imperial grenades helped to cement the whole elite/special ops look I wanted.

the bacground behind these is that they are veteran guardsmen that specialise in the more covert and stealthier side of things as far as special ops are concerned.
The grenadiers, hitherto referred to as the Bebbanburg Hammer-Hogs.
(got to use the name somewhere in the force and I figure that name is ideal to represent the brutality and blunt nature of the grenadiers fighting style of blow up everything and shoot everyone in the face)
are the hammer, these guys are the scalpel.
essentially they'll either end up as a hardened vet squad or simply end up as the company commander's personal bodyguard of handpicked bad-asses...
I still like the idea that the commander would pick the best operatives from the elites available to him and use them as his own personal guard. hence the fact that the armour is similar to the Bebbanburg grenadiers but clearly not as obvious. carrying the theme across but not the function on the models. making them fine as basic guard.

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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot






Did you ever had a look at Blightwheels Britanic Hell'ington line? They have a very similar british vibe and might be interesting for conversion work
https://www.blightwheelminiatures.com/britanic-hellington
I recently got their terrorbirds which look pretty awesome

~5750 build and painted 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

had not heard of those but have seen pics somewhere. the terror birds? wtf man, whacko! Love it...
   
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot






London

Love these guys, the commitment to the conversions and the paint schemes really comes through on the finished models which do truly look like labour's of love!

Thanks for sharing



Relapse wrote:
Baron, don't forget to talk about the SEALs and Marines you habitually beat up on 2 and 3 at a time, as you PM'd me about.
nareik wrote:
Perhaps it is a lube issue, seems obvious now.
 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

well, I got those last two stormtroopers done today:

note the other tank-mine from the atalan jackals set and another of those frag-charges.
I've added in some cadian nades and the cadian bayonet and empty scabbard.
note that the bayonet charging guy's lasgun is empty, no charge-mag in the chamber.
the pocket is from the intercessor sprue.

and here is the obligitory squad shot:

the bebbanburg grenadiers in all their blunt and offencive glory!

also got another shotgunner done for the engineer/sapper veterans squad.

note the wrench from the atalan jackals sprue (god I've pillaged that kit haven't I?), pockets from the mk4 marine sprue and intercessor sprue (large and small respectively) and the shells/krak grenade from the sternguard kit.
the shotgun with the muzzlebrake is from the neyophyte sprue but had the annoying niddy looking alien claw hand on it. I shaved it all away, cleaned down the pump to nothing, then replaced it with a bit of aluminium tube with a slot cut out of it to fit over the original, mutilated pump.
this gave me the option of modelling it back, mid-pump.

shant bother with yet another squad shot of those... you've seen more than enough of those guys by now...
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex


I decided to add some gore and an overall good splattering to the bayonet armed bebbanburg grenadier so as to better suggest at the brutality of the squad.

He's been getting properly stuck into the heretics in the trenches, I think it came out pretty good all told.

oh and here's a WIP of that bannerguy that goes with the other commandos in the company command squad:
   
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot






Loving those two stormtroopers!

I'm sure the DKoK will be available, both from ebay and later as a separate kit. Pricewise I don't think it'll matter much which way to go, since the KT2 box price is probably discounted enough so that even if you only buy the DKoK from one box, you'll end up paying about the same as what the separate GW kit will end up costing.

Lets hope the scales of the plastic DKoK's will match your future kitbashing plans.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

to be honest, from what ive ascertained from all the skuttlebutt and image analysis, they'll be fine scale-wise.

the good thing about anvil is that it perfectly draws the line between the guard resins and plastics available from both gw and fw.
all the detail and finesse of the resins with the uniformity and clarity of the plastics, making components from either source matching with anvil's gear with no problem.
same goes for the victoria minis too (who's legs I use on these stormtroopers)
Ive seen anvil arms on both cadians and on the resin dkok and they both look spot on.
likewise the elysian parts were a good match for anvils torsos etc and that shows just how good a design team they are. getting that middle ground, scale and detail-wise must have been a tricky task but they've nailed it! hell, gw should ditch fw and hire anvil LOL

looking at the dkok plastics they look to be +/- the same size, in height as a resin dkok yet with some chunkier details hither and yon (feet, ankles, hands, weapons) that are more to scale with the current gw human plastics. well, the ones that share a scale with the cadians and catachans anyway: thats gsc, cawdors and orlocks, don't get me started on the other necromunda scale issues...
   
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Painting Within the Lines





Tangentville, New Jersey

There's some really great conversions in here! This has been a great binge. Can't wait to see what else you bang out...


 
   
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Fighter Pilot





Edinburgh


Lovely lovely painted efforts, the kitbashes are excellent too (of course…).

I have a love for Anvil too, just keep going back for more! Their recent deluge of new lovelies is an ever present risk…

I’ve PMed you re. your swap shop btw

   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

So, I fancied a nice little experiment today. as an excuse not to start on the rank and file infantrymen (tis rather hot though so i feel I can be forgiven)
I was collecting up some old models to sell-on and found this headless wonder in the mix:

clearly far too mutilated to be usefull to anyone as a steel legionnaire anymore, I thought I'd test my skills and see If I could turn him into an artilleryman one-off for my 39ers!
A little nostalgic forray into white metal to see if my love affair with the stuff is still strong or if all of gw and anvil's lovely plastic and resins have turned my head forever...


the head, collar and gun had all been chewed to funt with a hobbysaw and clippers from the look of it, so, I first set about replacing the lasgun barrel/muzzle with a resin one I had (I've run out of plastic lasguns now) and, although a little short, I think it's fine to represent a stubby cut-down carbine, that is little more than a glorified laspistol with a folding stock. Almost as if the lasguns are an afterthought for the gunners, the sort of thing ideal to represent what a back-field artillery unit would be armed with. this was also a bit damaged so was re-rendered with some gs (damn pis-poor fw casting, grr).
I completely resculped the collar while I was at it.
the front hose was clipped away and the 'vents' on the rebreather canister shaved off and a pocket fold sculpted in its place.
whilst the newly reformed collar was still soft I pushed an anvil brodie head (with a cut down neck) into the middle then reformed the whole lot with my silicon sculpting brush. simple!
I then did the base with the gs left over. then to cover the hole on the back where the rocket backpack used to be, I simply glued on a scout grenade/pocket combo on there, yeah I could just have easily re sculpted back to be a strap etc, but, this is a nicer finish imho...

well to answer the above original question, its not something I'd do again in a hurry.
whist doing the trimming and carving to reform the front collar and right-hand pocket I remembered what a bitch it is working with white metal to do such things. it broke 5(!?) stanleyblade tips doing it!
the stuff is a pigger in retrospect and, yes its true to say I am a total convert to plastic and resin these days... well anvil's resin anyway...

I should get him based and painted within a few days and then we'll see how/if he fits in with the other Eoforwich boys in terms of quality. will the paint job be enough to make the grade or will he forever slip into darkness with the rest of his steel legion kin Ive consigned to oblivion in the pages of history...

my reasoning was that the steel legionarre wit the plasmagun I did to test the colourscheme is ok, so..?

more soon
   
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Sneaky Sniper Drone






Nice fix up, I'm sure he'll fit in with the others when he's painted.

   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

So, got that artilleryman done:

actually came out pretty good all told.
the thing about the lower-res nature of old metal castings is that you have to add a lot of fine detail that simply isn't there on the sculpt, with paint; the defined 'sections' of the shell, a lot of the folds on the cloth etc...
also there are a lot of connecting blank sections that are the innevitable result of single part metal castings, you've a choice of either painting these as the part they originate from as if it is stretched and skewed (like lo-res graphics on low poly 90's game models) or you can paint the edges properly difined and plant the 'blank' section in black. I chose to do the latter so that the mini would look better not only against the resins already in the force, but its also a better look in general.

so is it a fair match now its done? well, what say you?

I think, although it has the same short greatcoat and, of course the same head and colourscheme of the others it does have obviously differing details that are down to the sculpt being from a different faction and designer.
however, these things; like the big gauntlet-type gloves, the lack of armoured shins or putees and the differing lasgun design can all be explained away by the fact that he's an artillerman, not a line-trooper.
the rest is kinda close enough to not look too bad alongside the others. the lesser definition on detail not all that obvious in the end...

the real question, is it worth it?
I'd say it depends on the model you are converting. this one? I'd say, yes, totally.
I had the model knocking around anyway, pre hacked and the crouching/shell-loading pose is a very specific one that I rather liked and would be a cowson to try and replicate in resin parts from anvil quite as accurately as this.
it would be worth it for characters and specific poses, sure, but to go out of your way to get a load of metal rank-and-file guardsmen and hack them apart just to match your resins? no chance.
you'd be throwing your money away...

this does potentially open up some future ideas of using other 3rd party metal character minis as future conversion fodder though... as I say, the pose would really have to be worth it to warrent such action...

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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot






London

You have done a fantastic job of rescuing this model, which I must say ends up one of my favourite elements of going through the stash. Perverse, as it means I end up skipping over those 'perfectly formed' models, but the muse demands it!

Great explanation of the process/outcome, and really great to see the thought process at work. Thanks for sharing



Relapse wrote:
Baron, don't forget to talk about the SEALs and Marines you habitually beat up on 2 and 3 at a time, as you PM'd me about.
nareik wrote:
Perhaps it is a lube issue, seems obvious now.
 
   
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot






He fits right in! You really are good at this stuff. Kudos
   
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin






Great job adding details to the shell, particularly!

See what's on my painting table Now painting: Last Night on Earth 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

thanks guys,

So I decided to make up some shells to go alongside the artilleryman:

trooper Essex muses on which shells to use, high-ex or gas? If only he had a heavy mortar to load them into...

as you can see I've, again, used the Steel Legion rocket-shells and based them onto some of the nifty bits of sprue that Anvil supply their 'trencher' range on.
for those not in the know, so as not to waste space, anvil model their sprues as interesting rubble etc so as they can be used on bases or diorama pieces. something they've done since back in their 'afterlife' days... clever and resoursefull, eh?
this sprue is handily designed to feature trench duck-boarding planks and Ive used a few in some greenstuff so as the shells aren't just sitting in the mud...

these alternative shells are made from cadian flamertanks with the fin section clipped from spkes off of a chaos spikey sprue ram, the only thing I had enough of to warrent using but other things would do I'm sure. (plasticard 'x' sections would be ideal...)
the planks on this base are actually made by pressing the sprue into the greenstuff to steal the texture. I made sure that I mixed the paint on the base whilst wet to better blend the mud and board edges to make it look slick with filth and almost impossible to see where the boards end and the mud begins...

and no, I have no idea why I had three spare steel legion rocket launchers in the bitzbox either...
   
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Nimble Pistolier





Antwerp

Nice updates! I'm amazed at the speed you get things done.

'The whole art of war consists in getting at what is on the other side of the hill.' -- The Duke of Wellington

My hobby log: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/770007.page 
   
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Fighter Pilot





Edinburgh


Mate.

Those shell bashes are great. I swear I have no imagination at all - that is a brilliant use of flamer tanks! Never thought of that, keep thinking they might be useful for skip bashes instead.

Now I know what future artillery pieces will be carrying for ammo...

The repair job on that artillery man came out great too. I have no skill with greenstuff so seeing your results is very gratifying.


   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

@flapjack, well that's unemployment for you!

@ragsta, yeah the shells are so easy. But look ok when done. As for sculpting:
Use silicon brush sculpting tools and a Stanley knife. Lick tools regularly between touching the greenstuff. I'd be hopeless without the silicon brushes;

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143606200150

Gs don't stick to them. I use the square chisel headed one the most...

Also dentist tools can be good for fine work. But will too need to be licked between uses.
spit is great for preventing GS sticking. Don't gob all over it by any means but a bit of spit goes a long way. Some use vaseline. This is bad imho as it then needs removing prior to painting. And plain water is not really effective at all... Just my two pennith...

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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

sunday morning, workinghard or hardly working..?

...coming soon.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

Very soon!
artillery support for the eforwich 39ers has always been the intention with this collection, however I had no intention of being scalped by FW's obscene prices.
so scratchbuild 'tis then:








Years ago, when I first planned the bombard conversion, I had purchased a earthshaker cannon sprue on ebay for a very low price (snapped it up!) purely to get my mits on the cannon support struts.
I figured I'd get round to making a carriage for the leftover cannon eventually and somehow, so 12 or so years later and 'eretiz!

the wheels are the make or break of this conversion, they come from lego technics range and I've had them since I first bought the lego kit they came off of when I was a mere whelp of a boy! (single figures!)
once I discovered 40k (I had also been doing wartime vehicles and dioramas in my pre-teen days) I realised the wheels were suitably 40k looking and would be ideal for one of those 6 wheeled chimera jobbies that was often in the wd's of the time.
however, I never got my hands on a second set of wheels so this conversion never happened.
years pass, and in the box they reamain. the tyres long since lost to the mists of time.
however, the design is perfect for representing artillery-wheels to mimic the dkok early 20th century industrial warfare asthetic.
all I had to do was add some 'trench-tyres' which, during the wars, were little more than thin plates of dense vulkanised rubber that soften the footprint of the wheels somewhat, preventing damage to the actual wheel itself, keeping the gun standing true. just like the ork artillery wheels show them and I've also seen them first hand on similar weapons in the imperial war museum etc...
I simply used cereal box card superglued on for this but a better/more patient modeller would have sourced some abs pipe the right size and cut it into even segments and glued that on.
I figured, as It was going to be filthy and old looking, this would not be worth spending money on. spacemarine bike (or ork) wheelhub finished the wheels off just fine.
yes, I know the fw carriage has four thin wheels a side but these are twice the thickness so, funt it, it'll do...
the gun was altered by adding the muzzlebrake from the leman russ canon, the rest of the russ battle-cannon used either side of the earthshaker-gun as a mount. to this I added to trimmed down bits of imperial dozer-blade as a stubby, almost vestigial, blast shield.
as I'd used the original breach-plate on the bombard, I simply used a valkerie rocket-pod end with a little styrene railroad valve-crank I bought a bunch of at the engineering exhibition a few years back (one is on my autocannon conversion in the royston rifles thread, if you're that interested).
couple of pistons from the imperialguard dozer chassis, and a crank made from the searchlight mount on one side and a heavybolter mount bit from the valkerie sprue on the other side and the gun was done.
this was then mounted on a frame made of two predator/whirlwind plates (top/bottom) and some more of that long-suffering valkerie kit for the sides, a couple of track-guard bits at the back end and two rhino doors.
one as the back beneath the breach area and one trimmed down and put on the left side as a stand-point.
this last bit also has a handle off of something I cant remember and theres a grabrail made from a
tow hook (like I did on the nebelwerfer). also on the left side is a control panel made from a cut down auspex with a gungrip from a gsc heavy weapon positioned like a joystick.
on the right side there is the stowage section from the russ (fixed up with trackguard leftovers) and a towcable from the imperial guard tank-sprue.
the rear outrigger/platform is made from the dozer chassis with step-platess from the landspeeder-storm added. also on here is a towhook and a nifty little loading-crane, made from the servo arm from the long-suffering atalan jackals sprue with a reiver grapnel claw mounted on it (looks more like those annoying fairground claw-games than a shell-loader, true. But tis a nice detail nonetheless.)
this is then finished off with a swizzels plastic lollystick axle (no longer available these days, they are all compressed paper now, so use styrene or brass/ali rod/tube) with a pair of wheels made from the plastic basket drain holes like I did on the nebelwerfer. however, instead of leaving them plain metal with weathering, I decided to make trench-tyres for these too as it would match the others nicely and also suggest at the weapon's great weight.
oh, yeah, all of the outrigger is liked to the rhino plate under the breach-area via an upturned space marine bike pedal-section.
the front of the carriage-frame is finished with a pit of artboard (plasticard would be better in truth) with the storage-box from the predator kit and two of the chimera skull plate bits 'hung' under this to represent further amour to prevent grenades et being thown under or whathaveyou.
onto one of these the 'canvas-wrap' from the imperialguard tank-spruewas added, if for nothing but a difference in colour and texture and also to hide the twinned nature of the two chimera plates on there...


oh, and before someone askes for it, here it is with some 'crew'

no, not he right models at all but they will do for now to show the scale off properly...

although this can be considered done I'm not sure I'm 100% done with this yet. I've a hankering for a scenic base and some tools etc added hither and yon... we shall see...

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chigwell, essex

Oh, yeah. just remembered what the little grab handle on the left-side platform is from;
SM heavybolter spare mag!

just FYI...
   
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Nimble Pistolier





Antwerp

That came together really nice. Great build and paintjob.

'The whole art of war consists in getting at what is on the other side of the hill.' -- The Duke of Wellington

My hobby log: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/770007.page 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




chigwell, essex

thanks FJ, I was rather happy with it...
anyway, here are the tools and that I mentioned to go with said earthshaker carriage.

SM whirlwind toolbox, gsc pick from the atalan jackals (with added grip), a shovel from the IG tank sprue (with a handle from a goliath grenade) and the lantern from the empire steam tank kit. (this is mounted on a little hook I've added to the carraige, pics later..?)

also got that ATV quadbike I was working on done while I was at it.

although rather modern in its design I've added modern bullpup rifles so I figured this would be suitable! besides, the german Sonderkraftfahrzeug 2 half-trackmotorcycle was a thing so why not this...
(see earlier post for construction details)

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chigwell, essex

doing more with the earthshaker carriage

some camo-net drape made from aluminium car body repair mesh.
I painted it with a base of black spray and then overbrushed (a crude wet-drybrush-esque method) some steel legion drab and then added some zandridust as a highlight.
not only is this a nice contrast to the blue-grey armour, but its a nice tie-in with the greatcoats on the troops...


here are those tools from above, but on the model...
   
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That gun and Quad look excellent. Nice job.

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chigwell, essex

Thanks bud, at it again today...

here's five riflemen

with various backpacks made from astartes pockets...
   
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chigwell, essex

today I got round to something Ive been working on under my hat for a bit now.

A heavy bolter nest.

made from the kromlech bits-of-war HMG carriage (the one I had as a heavy bolter for my 11st RR) with the heavy intercessor heavy-bolter in place of the vickers/maxim it had on it as-standard.
the heavy bolter has been altered to fix any 'missing bits' with gs, the grip is the ass-end off an intercessor's bolt-rifle and the top handle comes from an autocannon ammo mag.
the box-magazine is from the atalan jackal heavy stubber but with a 'flap' from an imperial vehicle sprue ammo box, to match more of these added to the base.
those I modelled to look like two 'fresh'ones, one of these featuring some rounds poking out on a belt (made from a deathwatch pocket) and also one discarded one, thrown over the fence.
the fence posts are just bits of round sprue, filed down with a triangular file to give the wood texture and the barbed wire is scratch-made from 0.4mm wire.
the empty shells are from anvil, several small 'piles' and some induvidual shells stuck on too for a fair looking distribution.
the obligitory spade from the heavy-weapon sprue and the whole thing was good to go!

so why 50mm base not 60? why a base at all if its on its own? the nebelwerfer hasn't one!

well I wanted to do it as a stand-alone mini diorama as I wanted all the fence and ammo details and all that jazz but wanted to make it so it can be used with any squad, any regiment really, if I wanted to. simply putting it with two riflemen on their own bases, I suppose...

use aside, I feel it looks very similar to the dkok one in the end and thats down to the kromleck carriage. anvil do a good one too so thats worth a look if you're interested in other suppliers. the use of the HI bolter makes it it's own thing for sure... very familiar but subtly different

here's a top-down view as a parting shot:



   
 
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