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a_typical_hero wrote: I could totally see him going through Rubicon as the first and only GKin this edition. Maybe fighting for control with the sword was what nearly killed him.
After all, his fluff is that he is not using the blade's daemonic powers to not get corrupted. The new model is not what I would expect to see from "using it as a regular sword" and the article even teased that it would be deadlier than ever.
Would it be safe for Crowe to cross the Rubricon? I know its not as risky now, but having Crowe incapacitated for sometime is probably a huge, huge risk.
I'm pretty sure that sword is just a useless bit of pointy steel and incapable of doing anything because of Crowe.
Now it shoots fart magic?
Per the wiki:
The Blade of Antwyr is such an object, a scar upon the face of reality. Such is the power of this cursed blade that wherever Crowe carries it the taint of the Warp stains his surroundings. On Titan the champion must keep to the Chambers of Purity, often in isolation.
Not sure where it's said that it's a useless bit of steel. It actively corrupts the world around it, which is why Crowe has to be solo. I'm pretty sure it's also able to "escape" unless he's vigilant
a_typical_hero wrote: "The sword will be deadlier than ever" is not really hard with a profile of S: User 0AP and D1. An Astartes Chainsword is a relic compared to that.
It's also comically stupid and I really hope WC doesn't repeat after GK codex, because whoever wrote this either never read Crowe fluff or failed to comprehend what made it so good. The sword is so powerful Crowe could easily permanently kill greater daemons or chaos champions like Abaddon with it but the demon inside is too corrupting so Crowe never opens the door even for a millimeter and keeps it constantly suppressed. It had stats of metal toothpick in old editions because Crowe pretty much forces it to be one (so it had terrible stats but Crowe himself had rending and bonus to wound rolls to account for his vast dueling skill and ability to kill enemy through slightest gap in armour even with such bad weapon, making it effectively equal to mastercrafted power sword in damage output just done in different, interesting way).
These bonuses were in turn balanced by the sword buffing enemy units it could corrupt as it tried to get rid of Crowe - ah, fifth edition, last when the rule writers took inspiration from fluff and tried to make for interesting, truly cinematic games even in matched play, instead of giving idiotic, badly thought, game and fluffbreaking buffs to whatever pet army they can (*cough* orkstodes *cough* deldar *cough* squats *cough*)...
Daedalus81 wrote: Well at least we can confirm what GW said - no Primaris for GK.
Which is completely fething stupid considering how bad the old models are...
Shame really. Guess I'll just keep on with my sculpts.
This. He really should have primaris size and proportions even if GW is busy pandering in fluff to tiny screeching minority hating p-word. Between being ugly squat (and flames that have no right being there - see above, blade on old model looks plain for a reason) I don't think I will rush to add it to my old GK force.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: We just need to assume Crowe doesn't have an abnormally large or tiny head for this to be reliable.
Wrong. Look at recent stormcast and sisters, both often have helmets smaller than the bare head options. Helmet size proves nothing on any GW model, they are terrible at making stuff that actually looks like a healthy human put it on (and funnily enough, when they try, like with Krieg, people whine models are ""too fat"", go figure ).
I wonder why he didn't get a Mk8 backpack like all of the other power armoured Grey Knights?
Or why he has a belt fed storm bolter rather than the standard box mag (and why his belt isn't armoured like the old Justicar)?
I prefer the old one. The banner is meh, and the sword ha swirly gak on it. The old one also has Crow *gasp* holding his sword in two hands in a fighting stance!
a_typical_hero wrote: "The sword will be deadlier than ever" is not really hard with a profile of S: User 0AP and D1. An Astartes Chainsword is a relic compared to that.
It's also comically stupid and I really hope WC doesn't repeat after GK codex, because whoever wrote this either never read Crowe fluff or failed to comprehend what made it so good. The sword is so powerful Crowe could easily permanently kill greater daemons or chaos champions like Abaddon with it but the demon inside is too corrupting so Crowe never opens the door even for a millimeter and keeps it constantly suppressed. It had stats of metal toothpick in old editions because Crowe pretty much forces it to be one (so it had terrible stats but Crowe himself had rending and bonus to wound rolls to account for his vast dueling skill and ability to kill enemy through slightest gap in armour even with such bad weapon, making it effectively equal to mastercrafted power sword in damage output just done in different, interesting way).
These bonuses were in turn balanced by the sword buffing enemy units it could corrupt as it tried to get rid of Crowe - ah, fifth edition, last when the rule writers took inspiration from fluff and tried to make for interesting, truly cinematic games even in matched play, instead of giving idiotic, badly thought, game and fluffbreaking buffs to whatever pet army they can (*cough* orkstodes *cough* deldar *cough* squats *cough*)...
Daedalus81 wrote: Well at least we can confirm what GW said - no Primaris for GK.
Which is completely fething stupid considering how bad the old models are...
Shame really. Guess I'll just keep on with my sculpts.
This. He really should have primaris size and proportions even if GW is busy pandering in fluff to tiny screeching minority hating p-word. Between being ugly squat (and flames that have no right being there - see above, blade on old model looks plain for a reason) I don't think I will rush to add it to my old GK force.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: We just need to assume Crowe doesn't have an abnormally large or tiny head for this to be reliable.
Wrong. Look at recent stormcast and sisters, both often have helmets smaller than the bare head options. Helmet size proves nothing on any GW model, they are terrible at making stuff that actually looks like a healthy human put it on (and funnily enough, when they try, like with Krieg, people whine models are ""too fat"", go figure ).
...it would also require Crowe to have different proportions of legs, arms and torso to be inaccurate. Because currently his proportions are a 1:1 match with Primaris, same torso lenght, same leg and arm length, hell even the leg armour has the same thickness.
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But personly, if i ever would want him in my collection, i rather spend years trying to find the metal models on ebay, smoll marines is best marines! (plus 1/4 of my collection is 5th edition metal models and they are visualy superior to current models, IMO.)
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The ex Eavy Metal painter who painted this guy has mentioned on Instagram how he did this 2 years ago. Gives more insight into how long these projects sit on shelves for waiting a release slot, not withstanding any covid induced delay last year
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FrothingMuppet wrote: The ex Eavy Metal painter who painted this guy has mentioned on Instagram how he did this 2 years ago. Gives more insight into how long these projects sit on shelves for waiting a release slot, not withstanding any covid induced delay last year
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Great, more fething Marines! As if the tease of Black Templars wasn't enough of a kick in the balls
With all the new non-marine kits on the horizon, I think we can survive a hand full of character models along with Codexes/Supplements for the remaining one wound marines.
I think we should feel more sorry for GKs (and 1KSons, for that matter) given that this is all they're getting. A single solitary new model. Better than the DE got, but still...
Yeah, I have to admit I was a little upset that all Thousand Sons got was a single HQ. Like, they couldn't even make it an elite??
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But personly, if i ever would want him in my collection, i rather spend years trying to find the metal models on ebay, smoll marines is best marines! (plus 1/4 of my collection is 5th edition metal models and they are visualy superior to current models, IMO.)
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote: I dig the new look. Except for the sword, it’s rare, that designers manage to do the flame effects well. A plain sword would have been better, methinks
Especially since he's supposed to never, ever, ever, under an circumstances call on the sword's power. So seeing the sword flaming and shooting energy is a bit off putting.
I agree with others that there is something odd looking with this model, but I can't quite put my finger on it. The proportions don't look quite right, and the way it twists at the waist is a little off. It looks very skinny at the waist and like the torso and legs don't quite fit together properly.
Aash wrote: I agree with others that there is something odd looking with this model, but I can't quite put my finger on it. The proportions don't look quite right, and the way it twists at the waist is a little off. It looks very skinny at the waist and like the torso and legs don't quite fit together properly.
It's not terrible by all means, much better than minimarines. But it looks a bit stretched. It has similar look than I tended to end up when I used to truescale the minimarines. Seeing it next to the primaris shows how the primaris proportions are simply better, so it is really a shame that they didn't just do primaris Grey Knights. But if it is just this one model, it's pretty pointless either way; it will look out of place next to the old models regardless.
FrothingMuppet wrote: The ex Eavy Metal painter who painted this guy has mentioned on Instagram how he did this 2 years ago. Gives more insight into how long these projects sit on shelves for waiting a release slot, not withstanding any covid induced delay last year
On an intellectual level I get this, but its still jarring to be reminded of the long gap between 'model is designed and ready' and 'model is being sold'.
FrothingMuppet wrote: The ex Eavy Metal painter who painted this guy has mentioned on Instagram how he did this 2 years ago. Gives more insight into how long these projects sit on shelves for waiting a release slot, not withstanding any covid induced delay last year
Which isn't new. We had that on some of the earliest rumour-engine pics Warhammer Community did in the beginning, which "previewed" stuff from the AoS Soul Wars box as much as 2 years ahead of time. They adapted the rumour engine stuff to be a bit more contemporary, but 2 years ahead of release for the models seems a good rule of thumb (some stuff moving forward, some backward). Rules, of course, only get written after the models are completed, so maybe they only have a 1-year to 18 month window, give or take.
a_typical_hero wrote: "The sword will be deadlier than ever" is not really hard with a profile of S: User 0AP and D1. An Astartes Chainsword is a relic compared to that.
It's also comically stupid and I really hope WC doesn't repeat after GK codex, because whoever wrote this either never read Crowe fluff or failed to comprehend what made it so good. The sword is so powerful Crowe could easily permanently kill greater daemons or chaos champions like Abaddon with it but the demon inside is too corrupting so Crowe never opens the door even for a millimeter and keeps it constantly suppressed. It had stats of metal toothpick in old editions because Crowe pretty much forces it to be one (so it had terrible stats but Crowe himself had rending and bonus to wound rolls to account for his vast dueling skill and ability to kill enemy through slightest gap in armour even with such bad weapon, making it effectively equal to mastercrafted power sword in damage output just done in different, interesting way).
These bonuses were in turn balanced by the sword buffing enemy units it could corrupt as it tried to get rid of Crowe - ah, fifth edition, last when the rule writers took inspiration from fluff and tried to make for interesting, truly cinematic games even in matched play, instead of giving idiotic, badly thought, game and fluffbreaking buffs to whatever pet army they can (*cough* orkstodes *cough* deldar *cough* squats *cough*)...
Daedalus81 wrote: Well at least we can confirm what GW said - no Primaris for GK.
Which is completely fething stupid considering how bad the old models are...
Shame really. Guess I'll just keep on with my sculpts.
This. He really should have primaris size and proportions even if GW is busy pandering in fluff to tiny screeching minority hating p-word. Between being ugly squat (and flames that have no right being there - see above, blade on old model looks plain for a reason) I don't think I will rush to add it to my old GK force.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: We just need to assume Crowe doesn't have an abnormally large or tiny head for this to be reliable.
Wrong. Look at recent stormcast and sisters, both often have helmets smaller than the bare head options. Helmet size proves nothing on any GW model, they are terrible at making stuff that actually looks like a healthy human put it on (and funnily enough, when they try, like with Krieg, people whine models are ""too fat"", go figure ).
Weren't 5th edition Greyknights one of the most busted, BS, Special Snowflake armies in any edition ever? And wasn't fifth edition where the Armor Paint thing came from?
I'm pretty sure that sword is just a useless bit of pointy steel and incapable of doing anything because of Crowe.
Now it shoots fart magic?
Per the wiki:
The Blade of Antwyr is such an object, a scar upon the face of reality. Such is the power of this cursed blade that wherever Crowe carries it the taint of the Warp stains his surroundings. On Titan the champion must keep to the Chambers of Purity, often in isolation.
Not sure where it's said that it's a useless bit of steel. It actively corrupts the world around it, which is why Crowe has to be solo. I'm pretty sure it's also able to "escape" unless he's vigilant
There's an entire novel about how he (a) got the job, and (b) lost the sword on the mission and then had to retrieve it. The previous guy kept it chained to his back, whereas Crowe carries it in his hands to ensure a solid grip.
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