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Aye, only problem is when rulebooks for that specific army have that finecast model entry. They did not update the mini to plastic, they just put it on the rotating box and hide it for when they see it fit.
Its like selling a chess game but you cant buy all the pieces you need to play.
Another way to look at it is that all of those units being removed can easily be proxied/converted using existing plastic kits. I can imagine after the cut-off date that is what the response will be at GW stores when someone asks about one of these models. Yeah, a kitbash of Lukas wont look anywhere near as good as the original goofy grinning model, but overall I suspect the impact will be trivial to customers.
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Nothing new - they've been doing this to the Dark Eldar for years; it just hasn't been the right time to pull them back out of the Disney Vault.
"You will not be missed" comes to mind about this deal anyways. So long as they don't start doing the rotation to an entire faction, I don't think most people will even notice.
GW has already been effectively doing this for a while for less popular factions, just less formally- there was a span of about a year where GW just was not selling Carnifexes.
Better to announce what will be unavailable and then, theoretically, keep the rest in stock.
Turnip Jedi wrote: maybe if we pretend 3d Printers don't exist hard enough....
Honestly, what does this even have to do with the topic at all? "Oh noes people are buying 3d printers, better stop selling our old finecast models, that'll show them!"
Stormonu wrote: Nothing new - they've been doing this to the Dark Eldar for years; it just hasn't been the right time to pull them back out of the Disney Vault.
"You will not be missed" comes to mind about this deal anyways. So long as they don't start doing the rotation to an entire faction, I don't think most people will even notice.
If the reason given was that they reached saturation point wait until theres no more finecast... specially if they increase SKUs with the new stuff as much as they do these days.
Hummm that x plastic kit is not selling as much as y... into the rotation box.
Point is not these specific selected models look ugly and we can proxy... problem is soon enough you will have GW selling you new plastics on its release to then bin it on the rotating box because thats a thing they can do now. Keeping you buying new things ASAP just in case they vanish. We all know armies are expensive and you spread the shopping of it for a couple years. No can do.
Buy it now because they can rotate soon, is what they are trying to pull off.
NAVARRO wrote: If the reason given was that they reached saturation point wait until theres no more finecast... specially if they increase SKUs with the new stuff as much as they do these days.
Hummm that x plastic kit is not selling as much as y... into the rotation box.
Point is not these specific selected models look ugly and we can proxy... problem is soon enough you will have GW selling you new plastics on its release to then bin it on the rotating box because thats a thing they can do now. Keeping you buying new things ASAP just in case they vanish. We all know armies are expensive and you spread the shopping of it for a couple years. No can do.
Buy it now because they can rotate soon, is what they are trying to pull off.
Ooo, devious. Thinking further, it fits in with 40k seasons. You can only use these specific models with these rules in season 6 and nothing else allowed. Then it's either to the rotation bin or discontinued altogether when season 7 hits
Stormonu wrote: Nothing new - they've been doing this to the Dark Eldar for years; it just hasn't been the right time to pull them back out of the Disney Vault.
"You will not be missed" comes to mind about this deal anyways. So long as they don't start doing the rotation to an entire faction, I don't think most people will even notice.
If the reason given was that they reached saturation point wait until theres no more finecast... specially if they increase SKUs with the new stuff as much as they do these days.
Hummm that x plastic kit is not selling as much as y... into the rotation box.
Point is not these specific selected models look ugly and we can proxy... problem is soon enough you will have GW selling you new plastics on its release to then bin it on the rotating box because thats a thing they can do now. Keeping you buying new things ASAP just in case they vanish. We all know armies are expensive and you spread the shopping of it for a couple years. No can do.
Buy it now because they can rotate soon, is what they are trying to pull off.
It's a clever plan if people end up buying into the new world order it brings. Otherwise it will amount to nothing but lost sales.
They can rotate as much as they want, but if people have to kitbash then that will become the norm. Hell, even 3rd party suppliers will just grab a chance to fill up what is missing.
1 - most of them are Finecast. Gossip has hinted that they're keen on binning finecast, so getting rid of it make sense, doubly so if they can bring them back in metal at a later date whilst saving face PR.
2 - the cynic in me is says this is another opportunity to exploit FOMO. Annoucement that they're pseudo-retiring them (to drive sales) and then, later on, bring them back for a Limited Time™ only!
Your inner cynic must be talking to mine. Or it just seems obvious.
Honestly, binning a bunch of SM characters, from the absolute horde of SM characters? I'm down for that. My only objection is bringing them back later and rotating out something that matters.
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I find it strange people are seeing this as some big FOMO conspiracy when it's pretty normal for other model kit companies. I'm amazed that GW keep so many items in permanent stock it must be a night mare. Compare this to Airfix for example who have approximately 1,600 tools and currently have only about 240 lines on sale. GW on the other hand have 907 items currently listed as for sale on the GW store alone and that ignores FW. There must be many kits they only sell small amount of and it makes sense to concentrate those sales for slow selling items to free up resources for constant selling staples. Again using Airfix as an example you will always be able to buy a Spitfire or Lancaster from them but a Whirlwind or Stirling will only be rotated in and out of availability (sometimes for years at a time).
IMO none of this is really that worrying; I think a lot of these miniatures *may* eventually be heading towards Legends, but almost all of them can be fielded as perfectly legally counts-as.
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy.
I might have to grab one of those BA termie captains before they rotate..
I'll tell you what, I'll much prefer this sort of "rotation notice" compared to the old ways, where you go to GW online store to buy something, just to realize it's just become "no longer available online".. followed by disappearing from the store altogether without any warning or explanation.
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
Rune Priest. If I remember correctly a bunch of Space Wolf stuff got released just before 2nd edition, thus possibly making it the only RT era model still being sold.
I'm wrong. You can still get the original servitors.
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Rune Priest. If I remember correctly a bunch of Space Wolf stuff got released just before 2nd edition, thus possibly making it the only RT era model still being sold.
Yeah - looking at Stuff of Legends Rune Priest is '92 and Corbulo is '94-ish.
Rune Priest. If I remember correctly a bunch of Space Wolf stuff got released just before 2nd edition, thus possibly making it the only RT era model still being sold.
Yeah - looking at Stuff of Legends Rune Priest is '92 and Corbulo is '94-ish.
Damn some people have really been stewing on that FOMO then lmao.
Tallonian4th wrote: I find it strange people are seeing this as some big FOMO conspiracy when it's pretty normal for other model kit companies. I'm amazed that GW keep so many items in permanent stock it must be a night mare. Compare this to Airfix for example who have approximately 1,600 tools and currently have only about 240 lines on sale. GW on the other hand have 907 items currently listed as for sale on the GW store alone and that ignores FW. There must be many kits they only sell small amount of and it makes sense to concentrate those sales for slow selling items to free up resources for constant selling staples. Again using Airfix as an example you will always be able to buy a Spitfire or Lancaster from them but a Whirlwind or Stirling will only be rotated in and out of availability (sometimes for years at a time).
Sure they do... although they have 5 publications no rules and no game attached as far as I can see.
Point being GW rulesets publications games is a huge business for GW and the game is to be played today with the relevant tokens minis it needs.
If this was just Modelling kits for display and collectors items fair enough its a contained kit.
Its Like airfix would sell you the Stirling but just some sprues since the remaining, needed sprues, would be on a rotation period. You cant assemble the kit and 40k cant be played.
Well it can, people are clever to adapt convert etc... it just got a lot harder.
I find this amazing that GW acknowledged they reached saturation point... yet Production capacity has increased... Keep on churning more of the primaris in all the rainbow colours and in some cases with DOUBLE skus (regiment multipart box set) and ( easy build sprues on starters and deals)
Imagine If Eldar did not got some plastic sugar recently and were stuck to the old finecast and metals? Rotating eldar.
WarhammerCommunity wrote: They'll just be leaving the range for a while, but they'll return in the future, most likely alongside a relevant release such as a new Codex or Campaign Book. It is of course possible some of these heroes could return as updated models in future too.
1) Warhammer Community won't have any solid info right now as to how these range rotations are going to happen. Just the broadstrokes--which is what they say in bold there. 2) Even if they knew that, say, Artemis was to get a Primaris version? They wouldn't post it.
It would be a contradiction if they were to say that "These models will be returning, unless they don't."
FWIW, the question they were replying to was someone in usual hyperbole mode about how Artemis was getting squatted.
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Yeah, I can't fathom that one. He's a good candidate for converting into a DW Captain with Xenophase Blade (esp. the relic version that's D2 vs Xenos, what with all the tau and eldar invulnerable saves popping up), so I may have to pick him up.
Can't be because he's a Character model with only a 35CAD price tag, the SM Commander is only 30CAD (though out of stock).
Tallonian4th wrote: I find it strange people are seeing this as some big FOMO conspiracy when it's pretty normal for other model kit companies. I'm amazed that GW keep so many items in permanent stock it must be a night mare. Compare this to Airfix for example who have approximately 1,600 tools and currently have only about 240 lines on sale. GW on the other hand have 907 items currently listed as for sale on the GW store alone and that ignores FW. There must be many kits they only sell small amount of and it makes sense to concentrate those sales for slow selling items to free up resources for constant selling staples. Again using Airfix as an example you will always be able to buy a Spitfire or Lancaster from them but a Whirlwind or Stirling will only be rotated in and out of availability (sometimes for years at a time).
Sure they do... although they have 5 publications no rules and no game attached as far as I can see.
Point being GW rulesets publications games is a huge business for GW and the game is to be played today with the relevant tokens minis it needs.
If this was just Modelling kits for display and collectors items fair enough its a contained kit.
Its Like airfix would sell you the Stirling but just some sprues since the remaining, needed sprues, would be on a rotation period. You cant assemble the kit and 40k cant be played.
Well it can, people are clever to adapt convert etc... it just got a lot harder.
I find this amazing that GW acknowledged they reached saturation point... yet Production capacity has increased... Keep on churning more of the primaris in all the rainbow colours and in some cases with DOUBLE skus (regiment multipart box set) and ( easy build sprues on starters and deals)
Imagine If Eldar did not got some plastic sugar recently and were stuck to the old finecast and metals? Rotating eldar.
You don't need these exact models to play the game though. If they were, for example, rotating Knights but still allowed you to use them, I would get it, as those models would be hard to replace/convert in a fitting matter, and thus make it far harder to get appropriate models to use in game.
But Space Marine special characters are some of the easiest things to convert/kitbash, hell you don't even have to specifically be trying to convert the special character to have an appropriate model. Just say "This Watch Captain with a power sword is Artemis" and the vast majority of people won't bat an eye.
