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Commissar von Toussaint wrote:

I guess I'm not clear by what you mean.

Ok will try.

Commissar von Toussaint wrote:

My Empire troops are mostly historicals, so they match well to the LotR figures.
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There you go. I was talking about Empire figures, not third party figures in non-heroic 28mm scale used as proxy for Empire.

 Orlanth wrote:


There you go. I was talking about Empire figures, not third party figures in non-heroic 28mm scale used as proxy for Empire.

Right, but the point is that within the army the figures match.

Thus: an entirely LotR Orc and Goblin army looks great. Same for High Elves.

With humans things can get a bit dicey, but even there the issue seems to be about which vintage of Empire than Empire itself.

I am completely ok with having someone else use LOTR figs in the game. That is of course if I am allowed to use Historical units for my Bretonnian, Imperial, Chaos, and DOW armies.

TinyLegions wrote:
I am completely ok with having someone else use LOTR figs in the game. That is of course if I am allowed to use Historical units for my Bretonnian, Imperial, Chaos, and DOW armies.

Even before LotR came out, I was using historicals to bulk up my "human" armies.

What set LotR apart was their excellent value and the fantasy element. I was quite shocked at how realistic they looked. I'd long assumed that GW scuptors simply couldn't model the human form accurately because of the cartoonish proportions.

The pride of the army is of course the High Elf spears in metal. Set me back a bit, but they look great.

Most of the original LOTR ranges were sculpted by the Perry Brothers who have both a long history sculpting for GW and their own company making some of the best regarded historical 28mm figures in the business.

String evidence, if it was needed, that GW sculptors have always had the ability to sculpt well in different styles but that GW has a very deliberate chunkier aesthetic they keep too for most of their own lines.

Some of that aesthetic lies in the bulky nature of many early lines metal gaming figures (Grenadier is a good example) and the limitations of lead as a casting material. However looking at companies like Ral Partha and the work of people like Tom Meier and Julie Guthrie reveals that more realistic proportions have been possible in 25mm lead since the 70s...