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 NAVARRO wrote:

 Taarnak wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

I predicted this would happen to all digital content the moment many turned their backs to traditional companies and production models...
Many were on board to 3d Sculpting being totally out of bounds for pretty much any kind of regulation, so there you go.
Have fun this is just the beginning.

I really don't have any idea what the feth you are trying to say here. 3d sculpting is a tool. That's it. Christ this is a stupid hang up that gets really tiresome.

AI is going to hurt all kinds of artists, and you seem like you are tap dancing on a grave here. Ghoulish and gakky.

You seem confused. Its not the tools, its what people do with them and many of you seem perfectly fine with that... For some extremely bizarre reason most found totally acceptable 3D using other companies content and IP, ripping of other sculptors ( both traditional and 3d) work and selling as their own in an unprecedented volume. Also driving the miniature prices to new lows...
Never seen nothing quite like it... so excuse me if I find that now AI is horribly finding new lows and Im totally sure many "artists" will adopt it and people will buy it.

Its a race to the worst possible outcome and the consumers are loving it.

Not happy or dancing at all I keep saying the same thing over and over again... Unregulated activities should not be allowed to continue trading side by side with honest business. The results are here.

So this is what it looks like when someone's entire view of intellectual property has been shaped by decades of Disney & Co's corporate lobbying and propaganda.

 Ketara wrote:

The only way to circumvent this right now is to try and develop an AI that can generate 3D files out of 2D images. Which isn't impossible, some minor progress has been made in that direction already, and that's probably what the ads are drawing upon. But.....don't expect detailed printable models out of that. 3D space is much more complex than 2D. Those programs are aimed at creating animated videos, not stuff you can physically make and hold.
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Thanks for your post I agree with many of your points but I would like to single out this one since theres been recent developments from Adobe Integrating AI and 2D conversion into 3D, the results so far are quite impressive.
Thing is these massive companies dominate the industry and they are really pushing this as fast as they can, just to get even more share of the market.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Ketara wrote:

The only way to circumvent this right now is to try and develop an AI that can generate 3D files out of 2D images. Which isn't impossible, some minor progress has been made in that direction already, and that's probably what the ads are drawing upon. But.....don't expect detailed printable models out of that. 3D space is much more complex than 2D. Those programs are aimed at creating animated videos, not stuff you can physically make and hold.
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Thanks for your post I agree with many of your points but I would like to single out this one since theres been recent developments from Adobe Integrating AI and 2D conversion into 3D, the results so far are quite impressive.
Thing is these massive companies dominate the industry and they are really pushing this as fast as they can, just to get even more share of the market.

To be honest, I'd be more inclined to call these efforts 2 1/2D. The money/reason this is being pushed is to create movie content - that is to say, something that appears 3d when viewed on a flat 2d screen. So the software attempts to register and generate ways of creating the illusion of depth. In the same way your average artist when drawing a square learns to draw lines backwards at an angle to depict a 3D cube. It's a form of generating a predictive optical illusion more than it is a true 3D model.

For the movie makers/animated studios, that's good enough. Perfect 2 1/2D works for them, because nobody can ever look around at the '3D' bunny on the screen from a different angle. But to turn that concept into a proper 3D model, with appropriate varying depth for each detail - and then adding texturing on top? I just don't see one of these programs being capable of that - it's fundamentally different to what they do and how they work. And even if they could, there simply isn't the money involved for anyone to even bother trying to push it to that final step - Warner Brothers don't care about printing tabletop miniatures!

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Nowadays, the average 3D print seller on Etsy can print at Shapeways quality for a fraction of the price.

That's why I stopped using them. Once affordable entry level resin printers came out, their business model was outdated and they failed to adapt.


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 Prometheum5 wrote:
So we're all assed out of the money owed from our last month sales before the shutdown, but they'd like us to trust them and come back to do it all over again from scratch.

Before I'd wholeheartedly wish them luck with their sort of new endeavor, I'd want them to make good with their previous partners like yourself but honestly I think with the bankruptcy there is zero chance of that actually happening even from a moral standpoint since they'll have no legal responsibility if this is a new and supposedly separate venture.