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Specific > General. Generally, casualties are caused by wounds. Last Laugh specifies that it removes as casualties.

rigeld2 wrote:Specific > General. Generally, casualties are caused by wounds. Last Laugh specifies that it removes as casualties.

Give up Rigeld. That is a concept they will refuse to grasp despite it being the standard for how this game is written.

Indeed. That and that sometimes you may need to know what a word means, the rulebook wont define it for you...

Damn, just realised we're still agreeing BR....so, Jaws?

nos, you could always argue with BR in the Wolf Lord on a Thunderwolf Mount thread, unless you agree that a Lord on a TWM cannot join a unit of TWC with a Lord on a TWM already joined.

Brother Ramses wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:Specific > General. Generally, casualties are caused by wounds. Last Laugh specifies that it removes as casualties.

Give up Rigeld. That is a concept they will refuse to grasp despite it being the standard for how this game is written.

That's no fun! I haven't been accused of trolling, being biased, or lying yet this thread!
(note for the readers - I don't do any of those things, but I have been accused of doing those things - and it amuses me every time)

[sarcasm]rigeld, you are clearly lying and at this point you are obviously being a troll and uhh, you are completely biased towards all things that are not Dark Angels. I think that covers it all.[/sarcasm]

I play removed from play as removed from play as a casualty, it's not a sub set, it's not different. it's just different ways the authors used to say the same thing.

I agree there is no obvious convention or consistancy between the codices. Though I wonder and I am not going to do it, is there a convention being used by some of the writers?

I do think that the Lucas example does not fall to the RFP = RFPaac side due to using two different phrases in the same sentence. Since they used the two different wordings does it not read as when lucas is removed from play and the space wolves win the dice roll any models in b2b are removed as a casualty. From my reading of that it does seem that they are two different processes being applied.

I know this is RAI but it seems to me that it is a case of however you get rid of lucas, using jaws and other non wounding abilities, an ability that can target one model, dangerous terrain, him loosing a wound due to gets hot! etc the last laugh comes into effect so that if you take him out in your shooting phase or whatever the space wolf may end up removing his own models.


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masterofstuff1 wrote:I play removed from play as removed from play as a casualty, it's not a sub set, it's not different. it's just different ways the authors used to say the same thing.

Anecdotal evidence is all well and good when it comes to getting the feel for what the wider gaming community think but me and my mates play it as two seperate things... it doesn't really further the discussion. No offence, I just wonder what your point was other then that you wished to express your valid opinion?

rigeld2 wrote:

Brother Ramses wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:Specific > General. Generally, casualties are caused by wounds. Last Laugh specifies that it removes as casualties.

Give up Rigeld. That is a concept they will refuse to grasp despite it being the standard for how this game is written.

That's no fun! I haven't been accused of trolling, being biased, or lying yet this thread!
(note for the readers - I don't do any of those things, but I have been accused of doing those things - and it amuses me every time)

Its actually very nice to have an 11 page discussion and NOT see that, from anyone!