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 Tomb King wrote:
Tony doesn't look like he has an army built to handle crons. It might be a hard trek for him to make it again. I think i am pulling for spag and his necrons/csm. The nid army is most likely dual flyant and tervigon spam. Dont see another nid build doing that well.


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Also nids have a hard counter still present in dark eldar/eldar

I disagree. Tony whooped up on Necrons last NOVA because Necrons struggle with mass bodies. His list this year is similar. 100 Guardsmen + some marines. It takes a while for Destructors to do much damage and the footprint is so large he can mess with the movement. His list is good against everything.

What's Tony's list look like? 2 blobs 3storm talons 3thunderfures, khan, and scouts?

Chancetragedy wrote:
Allan's probably playing and since your incapable of google'ing http://goatboy40k.blogspot.com/?m=1

His list is 30 hounds and 3 soul grinders. On paper I am not really scared of that build but have never played against it or more particularly him playing that list.

I'm looking forward to seeing pictures of the armies more than who's placed where. Start posting pictures people!

Chancetragedy wrote:
just wish there was a 40k champs finals camera. The main hall camera is both Unsatisfying and useless haha.

About as useful as a feed of the Adepticon male toilet cubicle

Chancetragedy wrote:
What's Tony's list look like? 2 blobs 3storm talons 3thunderfures, khan, and scouts?

50 Man blob with axes
40 Man blob with axes
2 pcs
2x 5 marines with combi (for outlfanking purposes)
khan
libby with nullzone
commissar
3 talons
3 thunderfires


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doesn't look like much, but it'll definitely grind opponents down.

So there's no final table camera this year? That's different from last year, right?

Also (sorry for my complete lack of info) are the finals being played today?

LValx wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:
What's Tony's list look like? 2 blobs 3storm talons 3thunderfures, khan, and scouts?

50 Man blob with axes
40 Man blob with axes
2 pcs
2x 5 marines with combi (for outlfanking purposes)
khan
libby with nullzone
commissar
3 talons
3 thunderfires


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doesn't look like much, but it'll definitely grind opponents down.

128 wounds/hull points seems like a lot that's 21.33 wounds a turn you have to kill on average in a 6 turn game, what armies can do that consistantly against cover/armor. I know it's basically IG with space marines, but that list makes me so happy to see vanilla space marines in the top 16. With an unconventional list too! I love it.

Meh, him and MVBrandt took the same exact list, lol. I'm glad to see them having done well at Adepticon with it as well. I see a lot of folks say that Tony and Brandt just have their own house rules and can only do well in that setting. This comes to show that they can take their foot dominant/blob styled lists to just about any event.

Agreed. And especially Tony not taking space wolves just proves that point even more. Should be interesting to see how today plays out, looks like I'm going to getting my second thunderfire built after so long letting it sit haha.

Thunderfires are just nasty in 6th. When the SM book gets updated I imagine you'll see a lot more of them due to the expected points drop for tac marines.

Adepticon just updated their facebook stating that the top table live coverage will begin at 1300 CST

Thunderstorm lists aren't really that unconventional, There has been buzz about them in the competitive scene ever since the point drop.

My fear from the top 16 lists is because of the prevelance of Necron's and Necrons with Heldrakes we ware going to hear an increased call for forgeworld to deal with the fliers. as the other 16 lists demonstrate you can deal with fliers without forgeworld.

LValx wrote:
Thunderfires are just nasty in 6th. When the SM book gets updated I imagine you'll see a lot more of them due to the expected points drop for tac marines.

I couldn't agree more. I've used a thunderfire in every vanilla list I've made since 6th dropped. And thanks to finecrap and 6months of green stuffing and fixing I have parts to convert a second thunderfire, so ill be doing that this weekend probably. Now to hunt down a servo harness techmarine!

Meh, who knows how Flyer heavy those Cron lists actually are. Eric Hoerger is playing with 2 as far as I know and is mostly packing Wraiths and CSM Spawn.


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Also, keep in mind Flyer armies did really poorly at NOVA last year, so I wouldn't complain about their dominance just yet.

I just beat Goatboy.

Nick won
Aaron won

Josh is in a mirror match with a swede.

All necron lists look the same.

 Blackmoor wrote:
I just beat Goatboy.

Nick won
Aaron won

Josh is in a mirror match with a swede.

All necron lists look the same.

What do they look like?

What is Aaron running?
Nick looks like he has 10 Paladins/Draigo and 3 Anni barge/Scythes?

How's the Jetseer list doing? Did he play Nick or Aaron?

Defranza? Or was Nayden using seers as well?

I believe necron lists are 2x destroyer lord, 18 wraiths, 3 anni barges, scythes. At least that's what Josh has been playing in UK.

LValx wrote:
Defranza? Or was Nayden using seers as well?

Good call. Got confused. Still want to know how Nayden does against Orks in rd 1.

I think Nayden uses a slightly different list. I know DeFranza plays the invisible seer council with blob support.

Nayden won round 1. As for his list if it is the same one he ran last month in an event I ran it is.

Eldrad

Karandras

3 Guardian Jetbikes

3 Guardian jetbikes

5 Fire Dragons – Exarch(crack shot, tank hunter)

Asdrubael Vect

20 Warriors – 2 splinter cannons, Sybarite

Venom – dual splinter cannons

15 Wyches – haywire grenades, Hekatrix(PGL, venom blade) –

3 True Born – dual splinter cannons

Venom – dual splinter cannons

5 Beast Masters – 5 Kymerra, 8 Razorwing Flocks

Aegis Defense Line – quad gun

It may have changed a bit but I would assume he is still running beast pack deathstar of some sort.

Yeah, that invisible beast pack is nasty, but I imagine it's days are numbered with Tau markerlights able to obliterate it.

Karandras is sneaky. Hadn't considered him.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/adepticon-2013-championships-feed-a

The finals stream - although no one is playing.

Woo! Go Mannahnin. Looks like he was in the top 10 for overall.

off air already?

 Wazzdig Dagga wrote:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/adepticon-2013-championships-feed-a

The finals stream - although no one is playing.

Thanks for link!

Anyone have a link for table 1?

LValx wrote:
Yeah, that invisible beast pack is nasty, but I imagine it's days are numbered with Tau markerlights able to obliterate it.

Actually having talked to him he says he rarely rolls for Invisibility these days (mostly Divination) the 4++ power is nearly as good, invisibility was already hit and miss with things like the old Daemons, and Heldrakes.