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Hi Thanks for even checking my Thread =) I just Started playing WH40K... total of 1 week -_-' =).. yeah you heard right 1 week =)

i decided to join a tournament this late August =). I guess.. im in for a baptism with fire haha =). Learn faster with by playing then just read the Codex and Rulz book =)

Ok back to the topic... im trying to make a Tank army or so call mechanize Army =). The Tournament is 1500 Point and here my list =)


HQ - Captain = 175 Point
Terminator Armor
Storm Shield
Thunder Hammer

Elites - Terminator Assault Squad = 225 Point
Thunder Hammer
Storm Shield
* Land Raider Redeemer = 240 Point
Total = 465 Point

1st Troop - Assault Squad = 100 Point
*Land Raider = 250 - 35 = 215
Total = 315 point

2nd Troop - Assault Squad = 100 Point
*Land Raider = 250 - 35 = 215
Total = 315 point

Fast Atk - Baal Predator = 115 Points
Flame Strom Cannon
Total = 115 Point

Fast Atk - Baal Predator = 115 Points
Flame Strom Cannon
Total = 115 Point

My Captain will be inside the Land Raider Redeemer with the Assault Terminators =)

Grand Total = 1500 Points =)


My First Army List... Do Be Honest.. Good or Bad ill take it in as Learning material =). If in Anyway i can Improve do tell me =).
Right Now i have this Model (Fresh From the Box)

- 2 Land Raider
- 1 Land Raider Redeemer
- 2 Baal Predator
- 1 Dreadnought
- 1 Box of Space Marine Battle Force
- 10 Tactical Squad
- 1 Space Marine Rhino
- 5 Combat Squad
- 5 Assault Squad
- 5 Scouts
- 1 Box of Tactical Squad ( 10 Model )
- 1 Box of Death Company Squad ( 5 Model )
- 2 Box of Assault Terminator ( 5 Model )


With this model i have... can i improve it more?... I Just need a Competitive Army List =). Im willing to spent a bit more cash just to improve it. ( My Budget is around 100 usd )

With the help of you guys... i Hope even a noob like me can give a hell of a fight! =)

Well.. of course this sound like a no-brain list.

Not a lot BA honestly, even if you'll take advantage for "fast" carachteristic of all your Tanks.

I see some problem in any case.

If you'll deploy yours 2 Baals from the beginning they will be rapidly immobilized, so no Flamestorm cannons.

If you'll keep them in reserve and try to outflank them by one side the adversay will have to face just 3 vehicles.

3 very good vehicles ok but with an average number of 7/8 ST8+ melta (or similar) weapons even 3 Land Raiders don't go long a lot..

If you want to play this way I'll advice you to DS all the army.

It will be dangerous of course (depending on many factors) but one time landed you'll really risk to make a delirant havoc all around you.

In this case consider to replace the 2 normal Land Raiders in Crusaders, for the same price or even 3 Redeemers, 2 of them with an extra MM.

Thanks Toban =)

Guess ill try to add more troops =).

If you Guys are in my place with only this available Model

- 2 Land Raider
- 1 Land Raider Redeemer
- 2 Baal Predator
- 1 Dreadnought
- 1 Box of Space Marine Battle Force
* 10 Tactical Squad
* 1 Space Marine Rhino
* 5 Combat Squad
* 5 Assault Squad
* 5 Scouts
- 1 Box of Tactical Squad ( 10 Model )
- 1 Box of Death Company Squad ( 5 Model )
- 2 Box of Assault Terminator ( 5 Model )

++ ( 100 usd add on )

What list will you guys make?

I dont have my codex at work with me today, I forgot my backpack :(

So just a couple of things Im going to point out and a promise I'll make.

1) Im pretty sure that the 35 point reduction that you get from removing the jump packs on an assult squad doesnt apply to Land Raiders.

2) BA make an amazingly effective deep striking army, useing this to your benefit can be an amazing advantage, deep strike your entire army if you want.

3) BA named units are amazing, they are some of the best in the game, think Memphestion and Sangunar

4) My favortie 1500 point BA army list is three ten man assult squads with a melta, flamer and an infernius pistol and sangiuarny preist, and two chaplins and some random other stuff.

When I get home I'll post my usual 1500 point BA force

Catyrpelius wrote:1) Im pretty sure that the 35 point reduction that you get from removing the jump packs on an assult squad doesnt apply to Land Raiders.

Of course you can.

The Land Raiders are in the "Dedicated Transport" section of the codex and not in the "Heavy Supports" as usual so, as written in the Assault Marines entry (attahced image) we'll have a 35 points discount if without jump packs.

Hehe, you could have just quoted the entry, I get the SM and BA codex mixed up a bit sometimes.

I don't think posting bootlegged material is a good practice, you know?

With your available models try something like:
1) 5*Assault Terminators (at least one or 2 with claws to get high-initiative attacks).
2) Captain /w Terminator armour and Claws (he has high initiative - don't waste it with thunder hammer).
Either teleport them (locator beacon or teleport homer) or use Redeemer to deploy them.

3) 2*Baal with Assault Cannon /w Heavy Bolter sponsons (thus you may start shooting right after you make scout move and you'll be able to produce a read torrent of

4) 2*Assault squads /w Jump packs, power weapon/fist and meltagun (if you're OK with painting Death Company red - they'll be beautiful assault marines)

5) 10xTactical marines /w missile launcher and Rhino (and maybe something else)
Teleport homer here may be nice if no Land Raider is taken.

6) Maybe scouts (since they aren't snipers - am I right? - it's worth giving them a powerfist and combi-melta if you have one and using them as a suicide tank-hunters).

7) Maybe a dreadnought.

Several thoughts:
- Sanguinary Priests are great. You'd like to have one with every close combat squad.
- Assault squads should be either 10-men and flying or 5-men and in Razorbacks.

Thanks for telling me the strong point of BA Catyrpelius! thinking Either buying Memphestion or Dante. Im looking forward for ur list =)

Thanks For the advice Shwartz! I try to repair my List today and post it again =) Hope you guys can Review it again =)

I thought having 3 Land Raider will do the cut guess im wrong -_-'. I thought using captain only for HQ.. i am wrong again. It seem Memphestion or Dante basicly destroy my proxy army -_-'.. or its just my noobnees fight some Pro Experience Player =)

I see 1 list on other Thread... Using all 3 Predator and 3 Baal Predator=) Kinda Nice for My Mechanize Army. Ill try to build this some other time -_-'

Seem i have long way to go =P