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HQ:
Mad Doc Grotsnik 160pts

Big Mek 115pts
w/ KFF
w/ PK
w/ Cybork Body

Troops:
19x Slugga Boyz 154pts
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ Bosspole

19x Slugga Boyz 154pts
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ Bosspole

12x Slugga Boyz 112pts
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ Bosspole

12x Slugga Boyz 112pts
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ Bosspole

19x Gretchin 67pts
w/ Runtherd

Dedicated Transport:
Trukk 50pts
w/ RPJ
w/ Boarding Plank
w/ Reinforced Ram

Trukk 50pts
w/ RPJ
w/ Boarding Plank
w/ Reinforced Ram

Fast Attack:
2x Deffkopta 115pts
2 w/ TL Rokkits
1 w/ Buzzsaw

Deffkopta 70pts
w/ TL Rokkits
w/ Buzzsaw

Deffkopta 70pts
w/ TL Rokkits
w/ Buzzsaw

Heavy Support:
Battlewagon 135pts
w/ RPJ
w/ Deff Rolla
w/ Armor Plates
w/ Boarding Plank
w/ Big Shoota

Battlewagon 135pts
w/ RPJ
w/ Deff Rolla
w/ Armor Plates
w/ Boarding Plank
w/ Big Shoota

1499pts

What do you guys think of this list? Tactically simple, yet hopefully effective.

I love Mad Doc Grotsnik. Love him. His Rage sucks, but in general I love the Mad Doc.

That's kind of cool is that you can box in his Battlewagon with Trukks and Battlewagons and force him to move forward.

Here's a suggestion, though. If you can free up some points, take advantage of the Mad Doc's Cybork; put some on those Deffkoptas, for instance. Or even, and this is kind of a fun idea IMO, drop one of those units of 19 boyz and field Cyborked Burnas to run with him. Power Weapons with a 5++ and FNP? Forget about it.

Who would benefit the most from being cyborked? I'm thinking about cyborking one grot mob so it can hold objectives better. Does that sound good?

Cyborking grots seems bad, since they can just go to ground whenever someone sneezes in their general direction for a better save =o

well, your just 4 orky vehicles basically. 2 of them can be blown apart without much difficulty, even with your cover save (trucks) and the other two, while more durable, are only armor12 on the side.

I actually find it a relief to know that vehicles get a 4+ cover save no matter where I am. It makes my job of getting in line of sight much, much simpler, because I don't have to worry about cover saves. Hell, I actually make it a point to be as obscured from the target as I can. If they are always going to get a 4+ cover save, then what reason do I have to get anywhere NEAR you?

it just seems that your list is quite fragile, and easy to stop. If you play against someone with enough anti-tank to shut down your vehicles (common) you probably won't do so well unless your dice are hot for rolling cover saves. Otherwise, I don't see it ending well.

I'd put cybork body on the big mek seems you have a power klaw geared for close combat. You don't fancy that 6+ save in combat do you?

mercer wrote:I'd put cybork body on the big mek seems you have a power klaw geared for close combat. You don't fancy that 6+ save in combat do you?

I'm planning on leaving the Mek in his wagon when everyone else gets out and using the boarding plank to run around and pop tanks.

Ok. That's what I do too but your wagon o' klaw will get popped in time and that mek is then a easy target. For 5 or 10 points it's a worth investment.

mercer wrote:Ok. That's what I do too but your wagon o' klaw will get popped in time and that mek is then a easy target. For 5 or 10 points it's a worth investment.

You've convinced me!

List updated.

@mercer

So I think I can handle a reasonable amount of tanks (9 PK's, 4 TL Rokkits, 4 Boarding Planks, and 2 Deff Rollas), but I'm worried about TMC's.

As a Tyranid player, do you think I'll be able to handle a list with say 2 Carnifexes, The Swarmlord, the Doom, a Tyrranofex and a Trygon?

How can you handle tanks exactly without lootas? You've got rokkits which a few may hit, but at least you've got buzzsaws for assaults - the dethkopters will be taken doqwn quickly for what they can do. Boarding planks allow you to deliver only one hit, which may or may not do something, however I wouldn't do it but I have done it in the past throw the Boyz at the tank and they can do some damage glancing like immobilsed and weapon destroyed, in fact I glanced a vehicel to death before lol. Rollas again it's about getting close like the planks but the rollas have a little more chance, providing they roll right. Reason I'm saying all this is because you have a lot of elements in your list which I have in my ork list and those problems I've ran into before. While with lootas you can pop transports at range or cause damage at least. Best anti tank units I've found to be are lootas and dethkopters. Remember, klaws need to hit which usually is 4+ and then need to penetrate and then roll well on the vehicle damage chart - dethkopters have two shots with rokkits and power klaws and lootas have many many shots if you roll well.

As for handling a tyranid list with those creatures you may struggle. Reason is your boarding planks are useless because the nids are obivously not vehicles and the deffrolla cannot instant death them, only cause wounds and they get saves. So these leaves the dethkopters and boyz to get stuck in and all swing last so you may end up finding your dethkopters killed before the buzzsaw drops and a lot of boyz slaughtered before they even hit.

Best thing to do is stick in your transports as long as you can and use shootas to gun down things like the doom; it's only T4 and starts with 4 wounds so make sure you've got bosspoles to re-roll your morale! Alpha strike the tyrannofex with the dethkopters and hopefully you can put enough wounds on it, but I think it might instant death them, I cannot remember the strength. Your problem is just the tyranids can move faster and go first in assault and you just haven't got the fire power to put wounds on them, this is where lootas would shine because they'd gun down all the above easily; in a game I put 4 wounds on a trygon in one turn, that could be a dead fex, swarmlord, doom and tyrannofex - it got 4 or 6 wounds?

Hope that helps mate.

That helps a lot. I'd definitely throw Lootas in there if they didn't kill the fluff/theme of the army. Guess I'm stuck squishing bugs with tanks .

Just to clarify something, but you get your full attacks when using a boarding plank, it's just that only 1 model can attack (that's probably what you meant anyway, I just wanted to clear it up since you said "1 hit").

number9dream wrote:Just to clarify something, but you get your full attacks when using a boarding plank, it's just that only 1 model can attack (that's probably what you meant anyway, I just wanted to clear it up since you said "1 hit").

Plus the model counts as charging!

number9dream wrote:Just to clarify something, but you get your full attacks when using a boarding plank, it's just that only 1 model can attack (that's probably what you meant anyway, I just wanted to clear it up since you said "1 hit").

Ah yes, typo, well spotted. Only one Ork can attack but you need still 4+ to hit.