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Last night my buddy was playing his necron army.
He has a lord with a lighting field attached to a group of 10 scarabs. The scarabs where hit by a power fist, inflicting an instant kill on the unit.
Does the unit with the power fist take 1 STR 3 hit, or 3 STR 3 hits from the lighting field?

"For every wound inflicted on them in close combat by an ... " p15 necron codex
"If a model suffe3rs an unsaved wound from an attack that has double its Toughness value or greater, it is killed outright" p26 BRB

I would rule that the unit with the powerfist takes just 1 STR 3 hit, as it only inflicted 1 unsaved wound, that killed the model outright.
There is an oddity that p39 of the BRB talks about (including all of the Wounds lost by models that have suffered instant death) in regards to determine assault results. I do not think that would give reason for 3 STR 3 hits to be allocated to the power fist unit.

What do you all think the ruling should be?

labmouse42 wrote:Last night my buddy was playing his necron army.
He has a lord with a lighting field attached to a group of 10 scarabs. The scarabs where hit by a power fist, inflicting an instant kill on the unit.
Does the unit with the power fist take 1 STR 3 hit, or 3 STR 3 hits from the lighting field?

"For every wound inflicted on them in close combat by an ... " p15 necron codex
"If a model suffe3rs an unsaved wound from an attack that has double its Toughness value or greater, it is killed outright" p26 BRB

I would rule that the unit with the powerfist takes just 1 STR 3 hit, as it only inflicted 1 unsaved wound, that killed the model outright.
There is an oddity that p39 of the BRB talks about (including all of the Wounds lost by models that have suffered instant death) in regards to determine assault results. I do not think that would give reason for 3 STR 3 hits to be allocated to the power fist unit.

What do you all think the ruling should be?

Hmm, this is a toughy. I would say it's one. While you count as causing 3 for combat result, you still only actually caused 1.

Yes. Only one wound was inflicted, which inflicted instant death.

While all wounds from slain models in the assault would count towards combat resolution, the Lightning Field only looks for wounds inflicted.

Hm, I didn't know that about the combat resolution part.

But ya, like the others said, "Inflicted" and "Counts As" are very different and the wording is specific. 1 wound inflicted, 1 LF hit.

It's on p39, under 'Determine Assault Results' - 'wounds that have been negated by saving throws...do not count, nor do wounds in excess of a model's Wounds characteristic, only the wounds actually suffered by enemy models (including all of the Wounds lost by models that have suffered instant death).'

My gut says 1 wound and that's how I play it with my crons, but I suppose maybe you could still argue that the other 2 wounds lost to the ID were also "inflicted"...just for the sake of arguing.

forkbanger wrote:It's on p39, under 'Determine Assault Results' - 'wounds that have been negated by saving throws...do not count, nor do wounds in excess of a model's Wounds characteristic, only the wounds actually suffered by enemy models (including all of the Wounds lost by models that have suffered instant death).'

Cool. I just never had much reason to look at that section because I play with a friend mostly who knows the rules pretty well (though always learning, as we all are) so I'm thinking he might not have known this either.

Well, scarabs just became a little more of a liability in my book. Though yes, I understand that no one should be assaulting termies with scarabs anyway.