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Hi all, I decided to start my HE again and heres what I'm thinking for 1k points

Mage lvl 2 : 135pts
Mage lvl 2 : 135pts

Lothern sea guard x15 - banner, muscian shields 210pts
Lothern sea guard x15 - banner, muscian shields 210pts

Ellyrian reavers x5 - muscian, spears 112pts
Tiranoc chariot - 85pts

Eagle claw bolt thrower- 100pts

Total: 987pts

Mainly just an all comers list but I really intend just to see what works in 8th ed.

This is a pretty good list to test with...

Obviously it could stand some tweaking, and probably some magic items for the mages. But I like the idea that you should figure out what is working for you before you start buying toys.

You only have to spend 250 on core at this size, I'd probably just run one 18 man LSG.

Musicians are just free reforms now, so I don't think they are going to be fast cav staples anymore.

That frees up 168 points. You could add another bolt thrower and a great eagle, or upgrade the chariot to a lion chariot instead of the eagle.

Let me know how it all works out. High elves are on my watch list.

Shep wrote:

Musicians are just free reforms now, so I don't think they are going to be fast cav staples anymore.

Oh so fast cavalry don't get the free rally like they did in 7th anymore? So do you think I should drop all musicians from the list to free up more points?

Yea making one unit of sea guard would probably allow me for more specials but I'd feel like I'd get outnumbered by my opponent. Then again I would get a lion chariot or pheonix guard in that case.

Luthon1234 wrote:Oh so fast cavalry don't get the free rally like they did in 7th anymore? So do you think I should drop all musicians from the list to free up more points?

It is my understanding that fast cavalry get the 'flee from a charge regroup and do stuff' for free. Keep the musician on the LSG. You can start the game in 2 ranks, to fire to maximum effect, and then reform to three ranks if you get threatened.

Luthon1234 wrote:Yea making one unit of sea guard would probably allow me for more specials but I'd feel like I'd get outnumbered by my opponent. Then again I would get a lion chariot or pheonix guard in that case.

Hehe, you are a high elf... you should be used to being outnumbered.

Luthon1234 wrote:
Mage lvl 2 : staff of solidity 155pts
Mage lvl 2 : jewel of dusk 150pts

Lothern sea guard x18 - banner, muscian shields 249pts


Ellyrian reavers x5 - spears 105pts
lion chariot- 140pts

Eagle claw bolt thrower- 100pts
Eagle claw bolt thrower - 100pts
Total: 999pts

Mainly just an all comers list but I really intend just to see what works in 8th ed.

Redid the list but it is illegal in 8th ed as the lothern sea guard are only 249 and it has to be 250 any suggestions on what to drop?

For starters, you're over the points limits on Heroes. (Max 25%, which for 1k is 250 points. You're at 305).

I'm adding up that he's at 270? If so, you could just drop the "level 2" off of one of the mages to get to the lower point level. Although, a level 1 mage isn't too effective, imho, but it does give you an additional spell. Perhaps take the silver wand on the first mage, and leave the second mage at home.

If you really want to go magic-heavy, instead of the second mage, you could add in the banner of sorcery for more PD. It's a little unfair at this point level, imho, though.

A single mage with three spells (from the silver wand) is going to do just fine with all of those "Winds of Magic" PD at 1000 points, I think!

The second list is at 305. The first one is indeed at 270.

Chances are, as RiTides suggests, you'll be fine with a single Level2 (Silver Wand will be good here). Use the rest of the points to:

1) give the Reavers bows so they can do something on the turns they're not charging

2) fill up command for your LSG and maybe bump them up to 24.

Whoops, didn't see that!

Is there anything special about the "eagle claw" bolt throwers? I haven't seen them listed like that before, is it one of the changes for 8th, or just a cool name ?

@RiTides: well eagle claw which is what HE calls repeater bolt throwers sounds kooler and it is shorter for typing purposes.

@ Jin: reavers come with bows you have to pay for the spears.

Yea I think I'm gonna go with a single mage like RiTides suggested it frees up some points for my lothern sea guard while at the same time probably more effective that way.

Bah. Thought they just came with spears.

<= hasn't bothered using Reavers ever.