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ummm guys, i just noticed, in the DA codex it says: veteran sergeant may take a power weopon or plasma pistol for 15 pts..... OR! i have a few models which have both. and it does not make sense, surely you should be allowed to have both a power sword and plasma pistol. but i even looked in my codex and all the models they have with power swords have bolt pistols. please say the 'or' bit just means they are same cost and nothing to do with they can only have one of each

Says the same in the BA codex, Theres nothing wrong with it as long as you pay the points for the power wep and plasmapistol

PHEW! thats good, for a moment i thought i would have to tear off all my plasma or power wep arms and replace them.

just to add to any DA players out there another question which has been bugging me on the issue:

on vet squads it says 3 vets can have of the following- and then a list of storm bolter, power wep, fist etc etc.
well, it has that option power weopon or plasma pistol aswell. so does that mean in the squad i can have, say what im using, a lightning claw for one dude, and then a plasma pistol guy with a power weopon, or does it mean i can have an extra weopon to bring it to 3 "biggies". so a lightning claw, powerfist, and a power weopon linked with plasma pistol?

No, in that kind of situation they would probably count as two different options but you could put them on the same guy, it's a lot like that for vanguard vets, I may be wrong so it would be wise to ask a da player aswell

I've always taken this the other way, to mean that a guy can have a plasma pistol OR a power weapon. Not both.
In the case of a veteran sgt I can see both because hey he's like a mini character. But in a veteran squad they clearly intend to limit the number of "special weapons"
I don't really know the answer on this but I'm curious to find out what it is as well.

Ask for clarification in YMDC or something.

'Or' may well mean 'to the exclusion of'.

The specific statement is "may replace his bolter OR bolt pistol with a chainsword, or his bolt pistol with a plasma pistol.

It then goes on in the next bullet point to say "may replace his chainsword with a power weapon for +XXXX points or with a power fist for +XXXX points".

For the Veteran Sergeant entry at least. It seems to imply that his bolter or his bolt pistol can be replaced with a chainsword, which then is upgraded.

In that case (thanks Kanluwen), you'd replace the bolter with the chain/power/sword/fist and the bolt pistol may be upgraded to plasma pistol.

So perfectly viable.

Yeah, unfortunately "or" can be either inclusive or exclusive, and in most cases it's not clear which they're using (the guard codex also has this problem).

Personally, I always assume it's inclusive. If my opponent wants to waste points on plasma pistols, I say more power to him.

Plus, yeah, there is tons of artwork everywhere of models with plasma pistols AND power weapons. It's definitely what GW intended, even if they're a little vague when pen hits the page.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:In that case (thanks Kanluwen), you'd replace the bolter with the chain/power/sword/fist and the bolt pistol may be upgraded to plasma pistol.

So perfectly viable.

It took me a bit to puzzle out the best option for my Devastator Squad.

Plus it annoyed the hell out of me that I couldn't get a Combi-Plasma for my Plasma Cannon squad.

wow guys, thanks alot!

Why are you using the Dark Angels codex?

because i'm a dark angels player...... and tbf even though they are really weak at the moment i'm more of a modeller and painter anyway

Brother SRM wrote:Why are you using the Dark Angels codex?

A Dark Angels player using a Dark Angels Codex? Who would of thought?