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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/23 01:28:46
Subject: Extreme All-bike Eldar Windrider Host list. New player, HELP!
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I created my first extreme windrider host list for my Eldar Army. I very recently got into 40k and this is my first "REAL" army. The strategy is Reserve everything, and go second. The 1st and 2nd turn of my opponent he can't do anything and on turn 2 of my turn I jump in with 70-80% of my units from the + 2 d6 modifier from my Autarchs. The Shining Spears are really the best units to put the autarchs in despite them being underpowered and too expensive if you can't run Warlock Farseer Jetbike councils. Hopefully my opponent not knowing which edge of the board I will come on will be caught out of place allowing my Spears to be able to assault Turn 2 by turbo-boosting and assaulting with fire support from Guardians and Vypers. The Dragon Serpents will move Flat-out to gain the 4+ save and kill any must-kill vehicles he has on Turn 3. HQ __________ Autarch (Jetbike, Mandiblasters, Laser Lance, Fusion Gun) 140 points Autarch (Jetbike, Mandiblasters, Laser Lance, Fusion Gun) 140 points ________Total 280 points Troops __________ 6x Guardian Jetbikes (2 Shrieker Cannons) 152 points 6x Guardian Jetbikes (2 Shrieker Cannons) 152 points 6x Guardian Jetbikes (2 Shrieker Cannons) 152 points 6x Guardian Jetbikes (2 Shrieker Cannons) 152 points _________Total 608 points Elites __________ 8x Fire Dragon 128 points Wave Serpant (Spirit Stones, Bright Lance) 145 points 8x Fire Dragon 128 points Wave Serpant (Spirit Stones, Bright Lance) 145 points __________Total 546 points Fast Attack ___________ 5x Shining Spears (Exarch, Star Lance, Withdraw) 212 points 5x Shining Spears (Exarch, Star Lance, Withdraw) 212 points Vyper (Scatter Lasers, Spirit Stones) 70 points Vyper (Scatter Lasers, Spirit Stones) 70 points __________Total 564 points Total : 1998 points My main concerns: Do I have enough Anti-Tank? I devoted 1/4 of my entire army to it with 8x Fire Dragons in 2 Wave Serpents with Bright Lances. The Shining Spears can kill AV11/AV12 in a pinch. Also do I have enough troops? I managed to squeeze in 4 squads of Guardians for fire support and objective contesting. I was thinking of cutting 4 Fire Dragons, 2 from each squad, to have enough points for another Scatter Laser Vyper w/o Spirit Stones. Would 6 man Fire Dragons be enough to finish the job? 3 Scatter Laser Vypers for 12 S6 shots seems to be the most effective way to run them. I originally thought of running 4 squads of 9xman Guardian Jetbike Squads with a Destructor Warlock and 3 Shrieker Cannons until I passed out from the amount of points it took up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/23 01:33:02
Subject: Extreme All-bike Eldar Windrider Host list. New player, HELP!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I would go for something like this
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/23 07:47:11
Subject: Extreme All-bike Eldar Windrider Host list. New player, HELP!
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, its a good starting point.
I'd include a FortuneSeer on a jetbike.
In this way, you can generate a rather tough SS unit if you join the Autarch and the Farseer.
However, note that only the Autarch benefits from the Exarch powers, not the Farseer.
I'd go for small FD units, say 5 or 6 FDs.
Moreover, I'd drop the Vypers.
In this way, you could add two naked Fire Prisms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/23 08:01:30
Subject: Extreme All-bike Eldar Windrider Host list. New player, HELP!
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Charging Dragon Prince
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I'm with wuestenfux regarding the Vyper. They don't cut it any more with the vehicle movement/firing rules the way they are. They definitely don't need spirit stones either. The only good Vyper any more is the annoying gnat in the back with a scatterlaser that nobody can be bothered to shoot at. Also, dump the spirit stones on the Serpents. If you are coming in from reserve you'll get to hit first before they hit back, so given that they are both carrying a load of "I KILL ANYTHING" Dragons, return fire won't be an issue if you do it right.
Regarding unit size on the FDs, you really dont need that many. I have never seen anything that 5 fusion guns can't kill (well, once, when I rolled all 1's.. but usually they are a pretty sure hop and pop squad) However, the moment they get off that transport, any opponent with half a brain will make them target prime and bring them down as quickly as possible. If you position them so they cannot be assaulted, then a couple of numbers could help them survive a turn of shooting better, and even one surviving FD is a tankbuster. Still I think they work best in small units. It's just so much fucussed firepower it's wasted if a full squad unloads when all you need is a couple of them to do your AT work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/23 09:37:29
Subject: Extreme All-bike Eldar Windrider Host list. New player, HELP!
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Drop one Autarch and take a Farseer instead. With you mobility and +1 to reserve you should still be able to overload one of your enemies flank. This way you can take a Jetbike council instead. A unit that utterly rapes SS when it comes to pretty much everything.
Embolden locks with a spear willgreatly increase the durability and usefulness of your EJB squads.
2 Prisms might be a good idea aswell.
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