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Well Ill be playing against DE this Saturday and have made a list for the occasion.

Lord:
Wood Elf Highborn: 249pts
Elven steed, lt. armor, shield, hlm of the hunt, spear of twilight, glamorweave

Heros:
Spellsinger: 175pts
lvl 2, dispell scroll, divination orb.

Branchwraith: 165pts
lvl 1, annoyance of netlings, cluster of radiants

Wood Elf Noble: 119pts
Aysendis bane, HoD arrow, lt. armor, shield

Core:

10xglade guard, lord's bowmen 126pts
10xglade guard, lord's bowmen 126pts
10xglade guard, lord's bowmen 126pts
10xdryads, branchwraith 132pts

Special:

4 treekin, elder 280pts
5 wild riders, full command 166pts

Rare:

treeman 285pts
great eagle 50pts

total points: 1999

I dont normall upgrade my glade guard in any manner or form but I didnt have a choice if I wanted to make the core requirements. I also play DE so I know to handle his force here is what he'll be running.

Unkillable Lord:
Lvl 2 caster
BSB on cold one
Assassin somewhere
2x10 repeater x-bowmen
12 spearmen
2x15 corsairs one with the seaserpent banner and the other with repeater hand bows
5 cold one knights
2xreaper bolt throwers
war hydra.
I cant remember if there is anything else but it should be quite easy to dominate him in all aspects of the game. Heck he has to barrow some things from me just to be able to field 2000 pts. Hold my archers back from 24" to make him move foward and shoot and pick them off at range, 30 shots into one unit at a time until their gone. I'll probaly use the HoD arrows on one of the bolt thowers to elimnate it from the game. Ill use my wild riders against the hydra along with my lord, who will be by himself because he is not wild rider kindred and much stronger with his current build. Ill throw my treekin, treeman, and dyrads at his cold one knights and corsairs. As for the assasin Ill deal with him when I find him, hopefully it will be with my Branchwraith so I can issue a challenge so he cant chew my unit up. Ill nerf his magic phase with ease as he only has one caster and I have three, counting the bound spell from the treeman. Ill right a bat rep about it Saturday after the game is good and finished.

I think only spellweavers or singers can be glamorweave kindred. If you want to make him a wild rider you would have to drop the helm and the shield. I would probably go with the musicians instead of the lord's bowmen, although I can't remember if there is something special for champions now, but possible free reforms for the guard could be helpful. It's a shame we can't use Aysendis Bane for the HoDa shot. That would be devastating.

Hope you dont roll that one mission that has the breaking point rule or youv alreayd lost. They literally have to kill either your lord or the one unit of small wild riders and your gone.

The branch wraith is useless for magic defence. Drop the sptes on her run her bare and use the points for banners on your glade gaurd.

You are incorrect about spellsingers and spellweavers being the only ones allowed to have the Glamorweave. As far as the cluster of radiance being worthless its not because it says the Charcter adds a dispell dice to their "dispell pool" which translate to still haveing a extra dispell dice. The annoyance of netlings is for the challenges, which still exists if Im not mistaken. I took the champions to fill up points too.

I think there's a misunderstanding based on wording here- there is a talisman called "Glamourweave" that bestows a 4+ save against shooting, magic missiles, and causes enemies attempting to strike the bearer in close combat to take a leadership test. If they fail, they hit on 6s for that phase.

Boogeyman is referring to "Glamourweave Kindred" (which he spelled out) which makes spellsingers forest spirits, giving them all of the benefits that come from that and allowing them to join only unit of forest spirits.

It gave me pause at first, too, since I don't usually see the Glamourweave talisman taken. However, I think that's a nice build on your highborn, with the obvious drawback of having no ward save in close combat.

nieto666 wrote:As far as the cluster of radiance being worthless its not because it says the Charcter adds a dispell dice to their "dispell pool" which translate to still haveing a extra dispell dice. The annoyance of netlings is for the challenges, which still exists if Im not mistaken. I took the champions to fill up points too.

Cluster of Radiants does give you one extra dice, but it's at a rather steep price on a branchwraith that is not really needed now. It will be nice to have the extra spell from him, but I don't think this guy is worth his cost anymore. You could give the annoyance of nettlings to your highborn (allowing him to take a different ward save item, if you want a save in cc, and still only be hit on 6's in a challenge (more reliable than him failing a lead test)) if you drop the branchwraith. Do you have another small unit you could put in instead? I think you could really use one more unit, rather than the branchwraith.

I'm putting the cluster of radiants on a treeman ancient and getting it that way. It is a very desirable item, but I don't think the branchwraith is worth taking anymore in general.

Well her high int is a factor for me plus she is still pretty cheap. I normally put the annoyance of netlings on my treeman ancient but the days of me spaming two tree man in games under 3000 pts are over, not that I have a problem with that Im just gonna have to rethink my stratigies thats all. Ill be posting up another army list tonight where Ill be taking on both undead armies at 2250. Also if anyone noticed I said nothing about glamorweave kindred, just the glamorweave.

There's nothing in the rules keeping your from running two treemen, right? I think you could actually run 2 normal ones and 2 ancients in a 2600 point game (an odd point level... and not that you'd want to I hope!).

I do think there is still a place for 2... you've got 340 points in the spellsinger and branchwraith. Unfortunately, there's not enough points left in the "lord" category to fit in the ancient, but you've got the points if you wanted to try to move things around to fit it (perhaps taking 2 nobles instead of a noble and highborn).

I think he might be able to do the job of the spellsinger as well, using PD towards treesinging. It's not nearly as good as last edition, but it can make your dryads a tough nut to crack if you put them in a wood and move it around (makes them stubborn).

I'm just not seeing a great return on the investment for wood elf casters using the lore of athel loren. There is the hireling wizard (a poor play, imho) but I'm just going with the built-in treesinging on the treeman/ancient. No chance of hitting that nasty miscast table since it's a bound spell, too

Dont forget Ritides a treeman ancient takes up a lord slot and a rare slot.

I am suprised Boogeyman and RiTides have not picked up on this yet, but here it is, DO NOT take the treekin elder, the 20pts is not worth the extra attack (even if it is S:5)
other than that, I would drop the scroll on the spellsinger and swap it for the item which allows here to cast treesinging multiple times in one phase and lets her re-roll the effects of it.

nieto666- True, but I guess we need to wait on the errata to see what will happen with that. Since there are no more "slots" in 8th, his percentages will have to go to one category or the other, right? So I'm hoping that they only count as a "Lord". However, it's possible they'll also count towards the "maximum 2 duplicate units" for normal treemen, in which case you could only take 2 treemen of any type. But you can still take 2, and then however many other lord/rare things you want that fit in your percentages, since there are no more slots!

Krellnus- I was going to steal those points from the elder (and the lord's bowmen) to get the treeman ancient 2 spites, until I realized it would put him over in the Lord %, and I gave up and just posted it . I am a little bit torn on the elder for 8th. It might be nice to be able to challenge if you're going up against a nasty character... but I don't know, it's an expensive way to go!

So nieto, just to clarify- you do see that you are allowed to take 2 treemen, it's just that you're choosing not to, right? I wasn't sure if you said this: "the days of me spaming two tree man in games under 3000 pts are over" because you felt you couldn't take another one, or just didn't want to. You can definitely still take 2 (one ancient, and one normal treeman) at 2K!

Acgtually I think it will still cover both and Ill be droping the elder and probaly adding some banner instead.

Todays game against DE couldnt have gone any better. We rolled for our random terrain and ended up with 8 pieaces so regardless to say it was quite crowded on the table. We rolled the watchtower mission whic is actually pretty cool, and seeing how I forgot all my eagles at the house I just fielded three more dyrads and added a banner to one of the glade guard. He got to defend so I got to go first, he put one of his units of x-bowmen in the tower. I wont give a full bat-rep as I am way too tired right now but dyrads bring the pain. With their high int and muiliple str 4 attacks they maimed a hydra, with a little help from a treeman, then overran into fresh combat which invloved my treekin, who were about to get maimed by a assassin, and a 25 man unit of corsairs. The dryads hit like a tidal wave and I got 20 attacks with hatred, some building or something gave it to me. The assassin did his job and killed two treekin leeaveing me two. Then the dyrads hit home and with hatred I had 14 hits, 10 of which wounded. He failed all 10 6's. The corsairs then attacked my treekin, ignoring the dryads, and did nothing. The treeking also haveing hatered scored 5 hits and wounding all no save. Regardless to say he broke and I ran him down. When the game ended he only had his cold one knights left and two bolt throwers. I had lost one unit of glade guard, 2 treekin, and three dyrads. It was probaly one of the most crushing victories Ive ever had. Im playing rats in three weeks so we'll see if WE are as good as they looked today.

Even without the hatered 20 attacks is nothing to sneeze at when its int 6, 8 for the branchwraith with muiltiple attacks.

Awesome! It's great to hear that the dryads performed well... I'm rather counting on that . I didn't expect them to do that well, however! I guess he didn't have any black guard?

Our game against a tooled-out DE list under 7th edition rules in a team tourney today went rather painfully. His black guard unit with several heroes overran into a unit of my dryads. I counter-charged into both of his flanks with treekin and wildriders, and still lost by a landslide. I'm not sure what else I could have done there!!!

So I'm rather pleased to see a DE army get theirs at the hands of some fellow woodies

He did have a small block of ten but seeing how they dont have always strike first and we have same int, plus the branwariath's higher int, I won the combat two rounds in row. His dice rolls were kinda crape so that helped alot. Hail of doom arrow still performs wonderfully I killed 8 x-bowmen in the first turn. I also totally owned the magic phase which was also a bonus to me. He'd get spells off but I simply dispell them as to not be punished. He's a pretty good player and Ive seen him beat a really good rat list and a stout dwarven gun line. I just know his army better then him because I play DE's too and know all their dirty tricks. I also think running dyrads in larger groups is a really good idea, have to remember to get all those attacks no matter what. Plus Imk keeping the branchwriath she is now a cc beast with that super high int of 8. Also they support treeking and treemen better then they did before because they can bring more pain. They may not be able to negate flanks but they can generate some serious res, especially against armies with str 3 tou 3.

8th ed. is really gonna make us better then what we were. With all the defensive Items magic items we'll be able to hold our own against more powerful magic armies.

Also I intend to buy more dryads and galde guard because these guys are truly going to main stays in any woodie army.