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Santa Rosa, CA.

Why SW Drop Pod only hold 10 men?
The SW army is supposed to be build around a pack leader. 10 Grey Hunters (or BC ) and a Wolf Guard leader.
There is the free weapon when the pack has 10 troopers.

The Drop Pod in the SM Codes can hold 12 men. Why in the heck does the SW DP only hold 10 men?
I would be happy if the SW DP holds 11 models.

The Rhino only holds 10 men.
SW players have to decide to use a full squad or remove a model to add a WG leader.

This does not maks sense. GW is the business to sell us models/miniatures. If the DP held 11 or more models, SW players would BUY ANOTHER miniature to lead their squad.


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Because all their manly man beard take up 2 spaces. And those 50 lb. bags of puppy chow.

Really, I'm guessing is that it is in the interest of balancing out the armies, so they made the drop pod a little worse.

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The remaining space is taken up with a water bowl and an open window.
And the radio, so they feel like someone is home with them.

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Wyvern wrote:The remaining space is taken up with a water bowl and an open window.
And the radio, so they feel like someone is home with them.


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Its a balance issue. Plain and simple, and IMO a really good idea. If forces the SW general to choose and not just have his cake and eat it too.

Matt Ward even admitted that he ****-up the main marine codex when he increased the Landraider and Drop Pods to 12 men. Apparently the higher ups at GW gave him a good rubbing about it.

I guess he learned his lesson. The BA codex LR and DPs only hold 10 guys as well.

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That's a thing I've been wondering myself, Jayden - there's no such thing as a vanilla marine squad that's more than ten men, so why do the Land Raider and Drop Pod hold 12?

But if it was a screw-up, that explains it.

As for the Wolves, there you have it. We're not supposed to have 12-man drop pods. We're the ones who are messed up, not you.

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Its because during the Prehersey years the squads in this era had squads of 12. But they also do this so you can add 2 characters to the squad. And also if you wanna have two squads.

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I didn't think about independent characters, that'd make sense.

But two squads? I can't see a situation that would warrant taking up two force organization selections with six-man squads when you can just as easily combat-squad a ten-man squad and only take up one slot.

So, for example, why would you use two six-man Devastator squads when you can use two ten-man Devastator squads and combat-squad them into four five-man squads?

Four five-man squads > two six-man squads.

But like I said, the independent character thing makes sense.

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Wyvern wrote:The remaining space is taken up with a water bowl and an open window.
And the radio, so they feel like someone is home with them.


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Well space wolves kind of stink between all that fur and beer, plus I've heard that they are kind of overzealous about their personal space.

Something about not wanting other wolves to touch them or something.
   
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Jayden63 wrote:Its a balance issue. Plain and simple, and IMO a really good idea. If forces the SW general to choose and not just have his cake and eat it too.

Matt Ward even admitted that he ****-up the main marine codex when he increased the Landraider and Drop Pods to 12 men. Apparently the higher ups at GW gave him a good rubbing about it.

I guess he learned his lesson. The BA codex LR and DPs only hold 10 guys as well.


Not so, as for BA, the normal LR can hold ten, the Redeemer can hold twelve, and the Crusader a whoping SIXTEEN (Even I think thats a bit over the top). And remeber, we dont have landraiders as HS, they are dedicated transports for us.
   
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Yeah ours don't fly.

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I'll put it in the requisition for appropriately-sized SW drop pods right after mine of giving drop pods to the guard which are of an appropriately guard-ey size.

Or we could just assume that the game isn't designed to be fair and move along.

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Wow someone is grumpy.

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Happygrunt wrote:
Jayden63 wrote:Its a balance issue. Plain and simple, and IMO a really good idea. If forces the SW general to choose and not just have his cake and eat it too.

Matt Ward even admitted that he ****-up the main marine codex when he increased the Landraider and Drop Pods to 12 men. Apparently the higher ups at GW gave him a good rubbing about it.

I guess he learned his lesson. The BA codex LR and DPs only hold 10 guys as well.


Not so, as for BA, the normal LR can hold ten, the Redeemer can hold twelve, and the Crusader a whoping SIXTEEN (Even I think thats a bit over the top). And remeber, we dont have landraiders as HS, they are dedicated transports for us.


What are you smoking Happygrunt and more importantly why aren't you sharing?

The landraider crusader has held 16 guys since it first came out ages ago in the Armeggdon codex. The current SM, SW, and BA codex all has them holding 16.

The redeemer only came out when the 5th ed SM codex came about and it has always been 12 guys, its the same for SM, SW, and BA.

The normal Landraider (TL Lascannon) got its capacity increased to 12 in the new SM codex, but the SW and BA codex brought it back down to 10 because it never should have held more than 10 in the first place.

Its the same situation for the drop pod. Mr. Ward increased it transport ability to add either multiple ICs or 1 IC in termi armor. He got chewed out for it big time.

Its especially funny since the drop pod model (which only has 10 seats) was released only a few months before the new SM codex came out. Instantly making the new model incorrect from a WYSIWYG perspective.

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Yeah, but it does come with it's advantages.

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All space marine DP's hold ten guys except for the "codex" ones. Hmm, not very codex of them.
   
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Santa Rosa, CA.

I thought all the Butt Sniffing was done before they loaded into the drop pod. They just toss in a Cat to get them in there real fast. They tell them that a SoB is in Heat and she is inside waiting in it for them.

Seriously. I was real worried when I saw the drop pod for the first time. A battleforce can land in your deployment zone and in your face before you know it.
I always hate to decide; a Full unit of 10 SW or 9 SW and a WG leader. I was hoping I could have my unit of 10 and my WG too. 11 men would be good.
"Matt Ward even admitted that he ****-up the main marine codex " If I had a game Co as big as GW, I am sure I could find, Proof Reading 40K Gamers and people to test play it. No one noticed the increased capasity when The other staff at GW were reading the proposed book?

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You can also put Termis in SW Drop Pods.
   
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Santa Rosa, CA.

Unless there are more Jokes, this forum is done. The reason 12 are in Codex SM is a error. It was corrected with the SM chapter codex: SW,BA.

Personaly I would have like the SW Drop Pod hold 11.
Thanks all. I am a no BS person but I liked the jokes, real creative guys.


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Unless there are more Jokes, this forum is done. The reason 12 are in Codex SM is a error. It was corrected with the SM chapter codex: SW,BA.

Personaly I would have like the SW Drop Pod hold 11.
Thanks all. I am a no BS person but I liked the jokes, real creative guys.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Unless there are more Jokes, this forum is done. The reason 12 are in Codex SM is a error. It was corrected with the SM chapter codex: SW,BA.

Personaly I would have like the SW Drop Pod hold 11.
Thanks all. I am a no BS person but I liked the jokes, real creative guys.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Unless there are more Jokes, this forum is done. The reason 12 are in Codex SM is a error. It was corrected with the SM chapter codex: SW,BA.

Personaly I would have like the SW Drop Pod hold 11.
Thanks all. I am a no BS person but I liked the jokes, real creative guys.

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I always thought the capacity of 12 on the drop pod was so you could attach a terminator character to a ten man squad and still fit

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Maybe, they need some beer to fit into the Pod?
Same for BA. But for BA it should not be a problem.

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Another simple answer is the Drop Pod model. It features 5 doors and 10 seats.
And only Ultramarines accept to travel sitting on another ones lap

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