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1. Ok so is it right to say that in an assault phase a captian's power sword or a chaplains power weapon cannot defeat a drednaught as they have to rely on the characters strength plus D6 which is at best
S4+6 = 10 which cannot pierce front or side armour???

If so, even a mighty captain or chaplain have to (like normal marines) roll a 6 with a krak grenade to breach the drednaught armour in assault phase?

Am I right?

2. When using a krak grenade against a drednaught in the assault phase, I know you have to roll a 6 + 6(krak grenade strength) and that you only get one attack.
However what is the sequence? Does the marine still have to go WS vs WS with the drednaught first then roll the 6 for the krak grenade for the wound?

OR do you just roll 6 for the grenade straight up and that's it, you miss or hit and attack done?

funkyhazzard wrote:1. Ok so is it right to say that in an assault phase a captian's power sword or a chaplains power weapon cannot defeat a drednaught as they have to rely on the characters strength plus D6 which is at best S4+6 = 10 which cannot pierce front or side armour???

Correct. Power weapons will have no effect on walkers.

funkyhazzard wrote:2. When using a krak grenade against a drednaught in the assault phase, I know you have to roll a 6 + 6(krak grenade strength) and that you only get one attack.
However what is the sequence? Does the marine still have to go WS vs WS with the drednaught first then roll the 6 for the krak grenade for the wound?

OR do you just roll 6 for the grenade straight up and that's it, you miss or hit and attack done?

You roll to hit with a single attack, hitting on a 6. Then you roll armour penetration as usual, 6 + d6.

Dealing with walkers in assaults is on p73.

thanks, ok.

Wow that makes it hard! So roll a 6 to hit then you have to roll another 6 to make 12 (when added to krak grenade strength) to btreach armour.
two 6's in a row is hard!

Two 6's in a row and the best you can do against a regular walker is imobilize it.

Bear in mind that based on fluff, the Space Marine in that dreadnought is probably older and more heroic then your captian or chapter master....He is just more dead.

Which is why many characters carry around higher strength weaponry, such as a power fist, thunder hammer or relic blade.

Im on my phone at work so ive no books handy, but isnt a krak strength 8? If so, you only need a 4 to pen mate.

mattyrm wrote:Im on my phone at work so ive no books handy, but isnt a krak strength 8? If so, you only need a 4 to pen mate.

Missile is, grenades however are not.

Also, you get to roll against the WS in certain specific instances (when the walker is Stunned for example) to plant rather than neededing a 6.

You may be thinking of meltabombs, which are S8 (but also gain extra penetration dice)

6 to hit with it.

6+d6 needed to glance it (you can't pen with a krak against a dread).
Immobilised result is needed.
After this, all grenades (still only one attacjk each) get to hit based on WS.

Melta bombs work better v walkers (still need a 6 to hit, but you roll 8+2d6 for pen. Better chance to hurt it IF you hit).

Take thunderhammers or power fists on vet sgts/characters that can take them.

6 + 6 is a better chance than ... just wait to die and fail a ld check and hope you dont get sweeping advanced and destroyed. :-)

SM do not get sweeping advanced. They take no retreat wounds if they are caught.

Take PF's or TH's to deal with dreads.

...Or you could just take a wound, voluntarily flee, and then do something else on your turn.

You don't voluntarily flee, you choose to fail, but a sweeping advance roll is still made to see if you will stay locked up or get away.

melta bomb, melta bomb, melta bomb

How about shoot it before it even gets into assault?

And remember, if you aren't using a special character with chapter tactics you can choose to fail your morale test when the dread beats you in combat.