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Hey guys,

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I love Predators and it got me all excited so I figured I could put him in my army as Guardsman Marbo, taking out the enemy before he turns on the Impies...

Anywaaaaay... I was wondering, since the figure fits on 30mm bases (smallest), would it be a problem if I mounted him on a GW 40mm base? I mean, surely that would be disadvantageous to me rather than the enemy? Then again I guess the model could get in the way more... What do you guys think?

I wouldnt have a problem if you did but you might want to put a slanted rock on the base so he is like slanted up. That could help him fit on a larger base.

The rules say that you can mount a model on any size base as long as its the same size or larger than the model!

Actually the rules say you have to use the base that is supplied with the model. As this is not a GW model no real rules apply.

Your best bet is to ask your opponent first, I imagine a 30mm base would be fine.

camboyaz wrote:
The rules say that you can mount a model on any size base as long as its the same size or larger than the model!

Not anymore -that was 4th ed. 5th ed is you MUST a) use citadel miniatures and b) use the base supplied. If you want to use another sized base then you must ask opponents permission.

As you are already breaking a) then you are needing to ask permission anyway - so you will have to do so. However note that for *most* opponents the "rule of cool" would apply: if you make it look good then you can get away with a lot.

Well nothing is cooler than a Predator

Obv I wouldn't use this in a GW Store..

Putting on my RAW lawyer hat, what the rules actually say is that miniatures are normally supplied with a base, and if so, should be glued to the base before using them in a game.

The solution is to glue all your models to the official bases using wood glue. When it is set, snap them off and cement them onto the bases you really want to use.

Taking off my RAW lawyer hat, most people have no issue with a model on a base a bit larger than the official one. It is usually considered to be an advantage to be on a smaller base.

Frankly I think it evens out when you are talking about 25mm vs 40mm bases. The larger base makes a bigger footprint for deepstriking, but it can spread your troops out further against templates and markers. 1/2 a dozen of one and six of the other, for most purposes. If you put a Trygon on a 25mm base there will be trouble.

The real issue is likely to be using a Predator as a Guardsman, rather than using a 40mm base.

If you are seriously worried about it, mount the predator on a 25mm base, and mount the 25mm base on a 40mm base with decoration and magnets. You can then take him off the large base if your opponent insists.

Kilkrazy wrote:

If you are seriously worried about it, mount the predator on a 25mm base, and mount the 25mm base on a 40mm base with decoration and magnets. You can then take him off the large base if your opponent insists.

That is a really good idea I will have to remember that, I like me the scenic bases but in somecases it is too much of a game hit to do reliably

On a practical note, for Marbo it makes little difference. He's not in a squad and is highly unlikely to be in a transport.

As long as the base looks to be the right size for the model you'll probably be okay with most opponents.

Scott-S6 wrote:On a practical note, for Marbo it makes little difference. He's not in a squad and is highly unlikely to be in a transport.

Although for individual models it does make a difference for changes of direction from movement phase to movement phase, as he gets a slight 'bonus' in the new direction due to his base being larger.


It's not really that big a deal, though. If you have clearly just used the bigger base because the model wouldn't fit on a smaller one, people won't have an issue with it.

Well apparently this guy is a big fella, I will of course test him on a 25mm first... But the smallest base he could be supplied with was 30mm, I opted for 40mm simply 'cos AFAIK 30mm isn't present in 40k?

Henners91 wrote: 'cos AFAIK 30mm isn't present in 40k?

Games Workshop don't have a 30mm base. They are around, though... I have my Ork Nobs all on 30mm bases.

If you're breaking the basing rules anyway, using a different company's base isn't going to make any difference. In this particular case, it would probably actually be a good thing, as it would allow you to use a base that is only as much bigger as it needs to be, rather than jumping all the way up to 40mm.

I shall put on the RaW lawyer hat Kilkrazy took off and remind you that the rules only cover Citadel Models, nothing else!

On another note Tau XV8 suits at one time came with the 40mm and the small clear flight bases so whats the answer for that and the old Ahriman (same model) had the 25mm slotta and the new one is on a 40mm so what the deal with that?

Anarchyman99 wrote:On another note Tau XV8 suits at one time came with the 40mm and the small clear flight bases so whats the answer for that and the old Ahriman (same model) had the 25mm slotta and the new one is on a 40mm so what the deal with that?

There have been quite a few models that have been supplied with differently sized bases over the years. Eldar Jetbikes, for another example, have had 60mm flight bases, 40mm flight bases and GW's original hexagonal flight bases.


So far as the rules are concerned, you base the model on the base with which it is supplied. Whether or not the model was supplied with a different base in the past is irrelevant.

So far as actual gameplay is concerned, if your model is based on an appropriately sized base, not only will most players not care if it is the model's actual supplied base, most won't even notice if it's different.

Anarchyman99 wrote:On another note Tau XV8 suits at one time came with the 40mm and the small clear flight bases so whats the answer for that and the old Ahriman (same model) had the 25mm slotta and the new one is on a 40mm so what the deal with that?

this is why they come with small flight bases...






the small flight bases is for the gun drones you get as part of the kit.

warboss - Good one I always forget about the Gun Drones...but how many times have you seen them on the flight base. I have many times but yes it's for the drones.

Anarchyman99 wrote:warboss - Good one I always forget about the Gun Drones...but how many times have you seen them on the flight base. I have many times but yes it's for the drones.

lol... everytime i look at them on the table when i play tau!





honestly, i've never seen anyone NOT field them on the flight bases.

You can always have 2 bases , just pin them and swap them if the opponent wants you to :3

I just want to add that I have the "hunter" model and he will not fit on a 25mm base