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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 10:28:42
Subject: Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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1: Send a manned mission to Mars
2: Send manned missions back to the moon
3: Establish permanent settlement in space
4: To reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/05/nasa-chief-frontier-better-relations-muslims/
NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his "foremost" mission as the head of America's space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.
Though international diplomacy would seem well outside NASA's orbit, Bolden said in an interview with Al Jazeera that strengthening those ties was among the top tasks President Obama assigned him. He said better interaction with the Muslim world would ultimately advance space travel.
"When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering," Bolden said in the interview.
The NASA administrator was in the Middle East last month marking the one-year anniversary since Obama delivered an address to Muslim nations in Cairo. Bolden spoke in June at the American University in Cairo -- in his interview with Al Jazeera, he described space travel as an international collaboration of which Muslim nations must be a part.
"It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim (nations)," he said. He held up the International Space Station as a model, praising the contributions there from the Russians and the Chinese.
However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission -- in a distinctly non-diplomatic role.
"Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.
He said the United States is not going to travel beyond low-Earth orbit on its own and that no country is going to make it to Mars without international help.
Bolden has faced criticism this year for overseeing the cancellation of the agency's Constellation program, which was building new rockets and spaceships capable of returning astronauts to the moon. Stressing the importance of international cooperation in future missions, Bolden told Al Jazeera that the moon, Mars and asteroids are still planned destinations for NASA.
With thanks to Andrew Bolt's excellent blog.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 12:21:19
Subject: Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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Where's option 5: Send Barack Obama to the moon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 12:21:30
Subject: Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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I'm shocked, SHOCKED that Fox News would watch a channel like Al Jazeera.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 13:26:58
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Well the guy didn't say his "foremost" mission was to reach out to muslims. He said "....third and perhaps foremost".
Way to go FOX keep misquoting people to keep the mouth frothing going.
To be honest this doesn't sound much different then what they were doing in the 80's with reaching out to the communist nations such as the USSR.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 17:03:03
Subject: Re:Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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What the hell does reaching out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science With Nasa?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 17:06:02
Subject: Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Mean?
Get the University of Cairo to make an instrument for a satellite.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 17:39:18
Subject: Re:Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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And the internet is already starting to be filled with Obama jokes...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 18:23:54
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Albatross wrote:Where's option 5: Send Barack Obama to the moon?
'CAUSE HE WAS BORN THERE CAUSE HE TOTALLY ISN'T A US CITIZEN HE IS PART OF A SECRET MOON-MUSLIM PLOT TO OVERTHROW AMERICA AND DESTROY OUR LIBERTIES OH NO
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 18:28:03
Subject: Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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how is nasa supposed to make it to the moon if he cut it? I dont get it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 18:47:08
Subject: Re:Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 18:52:25
Subject: Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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So... He mentioned reaching out to the muslim community in an interview with al jazeera?
fething SHOCKING OH MY GOD. Nasa has a very clean name worldwide and it's an excellent PR tool, it's not like we're going to be giving the Taliban spaceships to crash into our buildings, if anything this is part of an administration wide attempt at breaking the cultural barriers between the west and moderate islam in the east. It's not like this is an actual policy directive, it's just something for him to highlight during speeches and interviews.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 20:11:50
Subject: Re:Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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I'm glad NASA is being used as a PR tool to the Muslim nations instead of doing the mission they are chartered for...
On a non-sarcastic note I haven't seen much in the vein of bringing down cultural barriers coming from the Muslim world. Why is it even conceivable that the US Space Agency should have any duty in making nice with these countries? First, there is a sizable portion of the executive branch in the State Department that should be handling foreign relations and second damned near everything used in the space program has a dual use in military applications. Why the hell would we include sponsors or abetters of terrorism to gain access to technology that could further missile programs in the Middle East?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 20:33:44
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Tyras wrote:I'm glad NASA is being used as a PR tool to the Muslim nations instead of doing the mission they are chartered for... On a non-sarcastic note I haven't seen much in the vein of bringing down cultural barriers coming from the Muslim world. Why is it even conceivable that the US Space Agency should have any duty in making nice with these countries? First, there is a sizable portion of the executive branch in the State Department that should be handling foreign relations and second damned near everything used in the space program has a dual use in military applications. Why the hell would we include sponsors or abetters of terrorism to gain access to technology that could further missile programs in the Middle East? I think we were reading different articles here. You should read the one in this thread, not the one in your inbox you get from freerepublic as a newsletter. It will help you to shore up the difference between "Muslim contribution" and "giving space shuttles to terrorists".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 20:49:44
Subject: Re:Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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Pardon me for being foward thinking when the National Agency charged with the Country's endeavors in space is being tasked to play diplomat to Muslim nations.
Making the Muslim world feel good about themselves is not NASA's job. President Obama is vehemently against American exceptionalism. While JFK stood up and embraced the challenge and stoked the fires of the American spirit to make our space program great, Obama and Mr. Bolden whine like children faced with the challenge of potty training and make the same claim those children make "We can't do it by ourselves".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 20:55:28
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Pardon me for being foward thinking when the National Agency charged with the Country's endeavors in space is being tasked to play diplomat to Muslim nations.
I would, but you've come to some pretty inane and illogical conclusions. So no.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 21:01:20
Subject: Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering,"
Please allow me to do that for him.
Dear Muslims,
You guys are great at making car bombs and road-side explosives. The way you set those timers up for rush hour traffic in order to kill as many innocent civilians as possible is absolutely fantastic! Never let it be said that your belief that the world is only a few thousand years old nor your inability to allow anything with a vagina to have a free thought has kept you from applying math and science in such a useful manner.
Love to the family,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 21:06:53
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Threads with both obama and muslims in the body text definitely seem to bring the local color out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 21:09:25
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Don't be so glum Shuma, The American flag next to your name means you can speak your opinon too. Were it the flag of a Muslim country, by the logic in Kronk's post, you wouldn't be allowed a free thought.
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Your side is always the "will of the people" the other side is always fundamentalist, extremist, hatemongers, racists, anti- semitic nazies with questionable education and more questionable hygiene. American politics 101.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 21:12:58
Subject: Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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Tyras wrote:Don't be so glum Shuma, The American flag next to your name means you can speak your opinon too. Were it the flag of a Muslim country, by the logic in Kronk's post, you wouldn't be allowed a free thought. Actually the forum rules prevent me from speaking my mind. The internet doesn't have free speech protection within private forums, it's similar to a business in that respect. If you were actually aware of constitutional or US law you would probably know that. Were I allowed to speak my mind without repercussion (aka getting banned again) you can bet I would be a lot less kind to posts like Kronks or yours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 21:23:55
Subject: Barack Obama want's Nasa's primary priority to be:
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/pat Shuma on the head
It's gonna be ok. Maybe if you eat your veggies and drink your milk you'll grow up big and strong like your internet persona. Until then you can continue to hide behind arguments that you can't speak your mind in as nasty a manner as you'd like to because of the grown up's rules. That, and maybe you'll eventually have the capacity to read more than the face value of internet posts before vomiting all over your keyboard, spit up is always so disgusting.
You can voice your opinion and you can post drek on the Dakka forums are two different things.
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Your side is always the "will of the people" the other side is always fundamentalist, extremist, hatemongers, racists, anti- semitic nazies with questionable education and more questionable hygiene. American politics 101.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 21:28:44
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Tyras wrote:/pat Shuma on the head It's gonna be ok. Maybe if you eat your veggies and drink your milk you'll grow up big and strong like your internet persona. Until then you can continue to hide behind arguments that you can't speak your mind in as nasty a manner as you'd like to because of the grown up's rules. That, and maybe you'll eventually have the capacity to read more than the face value of internet posts before vomiting all over your keyboard, spit up is always so disgusting. You can voice your opinion and you can post drek on the Dakka forums are two different things. I voiced my opinion. I did it before you did. You can scroll up and read it if you care too. I then voiced it again when you voiced your (poorly informed, illogical, politically charged, and kinda dumb) opinion concerning leaking weapon-viable technologies to nations that support terrorism because a directive of nasa is the be inclusive with a religion that America as an entity has a very poor image within (Y'know, because we've continuously supported illegitimate or violent regimes there (the shah, Sadaam, Israel) while every decade or so going in and blowing up all the infrastructure that they build up (having electricity in Iraq is a luxury now, it was the norm before)). A few words in a few speeches is not paramount to handing over the plans of the ares rockets to Iran and one would have to be a low functioning simpleton to draw that conclusion. You think Hamas is going to build a multi stage ICBM because we leaked the plans for exterior hull cooling gel used during initial takeoffs (This is a joke, just so you know, since there is no plan to actually share or leak any technologies and such things are easily available from the russians anyway)? Do you need to to call rehab for you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 21:41:04
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Leaking dual use technology is a definite possibility if NASA were to form a working relationship with the science arms of Muslim governments. While making them feel better about themselves is where they are in the relationship now it's my belief that given Obama's attitude towards the Muslim world he will foster deeper relations than the self esteem counselor he wants NASA to be.
I'll have to do a little research, but I was unaware that Isreal, the Shah of Iran, or (as unsavory as he got there or turned out to be) Sadam were illegitimate. I also find it amusing that a Nation under near constant attack and defending their population and interests in a region nearly completely hostile towards them, Isreal, is classified as a violent regime in your book.
As far as Iraq and the garden of eden that it was before the wicked Americans under the direction of the Crusader Bush goes, ya might want to step away from Sean Penn's (talk about needing rehab) talking points for a moment and educate yourself. The infrastructure was severely neglected for three decades in Iraq.
Edit: And if all of this was on the up and up, nothing to be ashamed of, and consistent with the will of the American people why has it taken so long for this revelation to come into the light? Why did Obama give this directive to NASA when he took office and keep it on the down low?
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Your side is always the "will of the people" the other side is always fundamentalist, extremist, hatemongers, racists, anti- semitic nazies with questionable education and more questionable hygiene. American politics 101.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 21:50:47
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Leaking dual use technology is a definite possibility if NASA were to form a working relationship with the science arms of Muslim governments. Stop right there. "When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering," This is the actual quote. Just stop posting. You haven't read the article, or if you have you're unable to comprehend it. I'll have to do a little research, but I was unaware that Isreal, the Shah of Iran, or (as unsavory as he got there or turned out to be) Sadam were illegitimate. They are as legitimate as Hamas or Achmadinejad. Also Israel is legitimate, I said legitimate OR violent. Much like with the headliner article I'm just going to assume you stopped reading after a few words. The legitimacy of governance is determined by national peers and citizenry. Few people in modern times considered the shahs government particularly even handed or competent. I also find it amusing that a Nation under near constant attack and defending their population and interests in a region nearly completely hostile towards them, Isreal, is classified as a violent regime in your book. Israel is under constant attack from the gaza strip, an area of land that they illegitimately (under UN law) occupy and embargo. They have also killed literally over 100 times as many Palestinians as they have lost to Palestinian attacks in the last 20 years. Once again, you don't know gak. As far as Iraq and the garden of eden that it was before the wicked Americans under the direction of the Crusader Bush goes, ya might want to step away from Sean Penn's talking points for a moment and educate yourself. The infrastructure was severely neglected for three decades in Iraq. Yeah, and now it's gone. Magic! I don't use talking points, I use reality. Something you, and people like yourself are totally unaware of. You live in your magical GI Joe fantasy world and can't be bothered to actually observe the planet you live on, you just trust whatever half baked newsletter gives you your rhetoric for the week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 22:00:13
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ShumaGorath wrote:Leaking dual use technology is a definite possibility if NASA were to form a working relationship with the science arms of Muslim governments.
Stop right there.
"When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering,"
This is the actual quote. Just stop posting. You haven't read the article, or if you have you're unable to comprehend it.
I'll have to do a little research, but I was unaware that Isreal, the Shah of Iran, or (as unsavory as he got there or turned out to be) Sadam were illegitimate.
They are as legitimate as Hamas or Achmadinejad. Also Israel is legitimate, I said legitimate OR violent. Much like with the headliner article I'm just going to assume you stopped reading after a few words. The legitimacy of governance is determined by national peers and citizenry. Few people in modern times considered the shahs government particularly even handed or competent.
I also find it amusing that a Nation under near constant attack and defending their population and interests in a region nearly completely hostile towards them, Isreal, is classified as a violent regime in your book.
Israel is under constant attack from the gaza strip, an area of land that they illegitimately (under UN law) occupy and embargo. They have also killed literally over 100 times as many Palestinians as they have lost to Palestinian attacks in the last 20 years.
Once again, you don't know gak.
As far as Iraq and the garden of eden that it was before the wicked Americans under the direction of the Crusader Bush goes, ya might want to step away from Sean Penn's talking points for a moment and educate yourself. The infrastructure was severely neglected for three decades in Iraq.
Yeah, and now it's gone. Magic! I don't use talking points, I use reality. Something you, and people like yourself are totally unaware of. You live in your magical GI Joe fantasy world and can't be bothered to actually observe the planet you live on, you just trust whatever half baked newsletter gives you your rhetoric for the week.
No Shuma, you stop cause its plain as fething day YOU don't have a god damned clue as to what the feth you are talking about ESPICALLY when it comes to Iraq.
Iraq still has a working (though unstable at best) infrastructure. To suggest otherwise is completly stupid. How the hell do you think they get by on a daily basis! You don't speak in reality, you are speaking from your 4th point of contact.
Tell you what... spend a tour over there and see things with your own two eyes. Then come back and humble us oh great one.. and speak this truth... "reality".. to the rest of us.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 22:03:42
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reds8n wrote: Either a really big ladder or a situation involving a lot of fat people, a n top class trampoline and that special springboard they built off the grand canyon.
To tell the truth, that sounds fun, can we do it anyway?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 22:12:49
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I have observed the world I live in. Have you been outside of the United States for more than a vacation? I've lived in Europe. I've deployed to Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Columbia.
I have a much clearer vision of what the world is than you give me credit for.
While my opinions are pretty staunch on the right side of the political spectrum, you'res are just as staunch on the left. So before you saddle up your high horse to talk down about how every opposing opinion is nothing more than a cut and paste from a newletter you might want to take a hard look at how you compose your own posts.
You claim that I didn't read the article. I claim that you didn't read anything more than the pixilated text in front of you and accepted it as a done deal. Noting here to see move along... I don't see it that way. I read the article and put it into the context of Obama's attitude and policy towards Muslim nations. I believe that Obama would very much like to expand the US relationship beyond the cheerleader capacity he's using NASA for now.
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No Shuma, you stop cause its plain as fething day YOU don't have a god damned clue as to what the feth you are talking about ESPICALLY when it comes to Iraq.
You didn't even know what you're own gun was. The difference between my knowledge of history, geography, politics, psychology, and science and that of people like Tyras is like night and day.
Iraq still has a working (though unstable at best) infrastructure. To suggest otherwise is completly stupid. How the hell do you think they get by on a daily basis! You don't speak in reality, you are speaking from your 4th point of contact.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10437279.stm
Yeah, I'm sure it was great in all the places you were allowed to go with their nice big American generators that functioned off the Iraqi power grid which suffers roving hourly blackouts in most areas with several hours of rationed use for most locals per day.
Tell you what... spend a tour over there and see things with your own two eyes. Then come back and humble us oh great one.. and speak this truth... "reality".. to the rest of us.
Yeah, because you lived in an iraqi home. How many backup generators did your base have?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 22:19:51
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Tyras wrote:I have observed the world I live in. Have you been outside of the United States for more than a vacation? I've lived in Europe. I've deployed to Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Columbia.
So which country feels the hottest? Dry heat Afghanistan/Iraq or the sauna that is Columbia?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/06 22:21:57
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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I have observed the world I live in. About as well as you've observed the OPs article? Do you need glasses? Have you been outside of the United States for more than a vacation? I've lived in Europe. I've deployed to Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Columbia. Yes, I'm sure you were deployed there for your intricate knowledge of local customs and geopolitics. I have a much clearer vision of what the world is than you give me credit for. If thats true then you have an elaborate persona you use on the internet of the raging reactionary jingoist national. It's very convincing. I'm impressed. While my opinions are pretty staunch on the right side of the political spectrum, you'res are just as staunch on the left. Actually they aren't. I wouldn't expect you to know your oppositions opinons as anything other than "Something I don't agree with" though. We're all liberals in your eyes. I rarely state my own actuall opinons on issues. I mostly just tell others that they are wrong when they are wrong. I post in a fashion that (should) make it difficult to discern my political leanings. I'm a strong constitutionalist in some areas, quite liberal in others, and I'm a warhawk with international foreign politics. These things combined do not create a liberal. So before you saddle up your high horse to talk down about how every opposing opinion is nothing more than a cut and paste from a newletter you might want to take a hard look at how you compose your own posts. Aggressively, and from a very high horse. You claim that I didn't read the article. I claim that you didn't read anything more than the pixilated text in front of you and accepted it as a done deal. Noting here to see move along... I don't see it that way. Yes, we call people like that wacky conspiracy theorists or "too lazy to do actual outside research to support their ridiculous assertions". It could be either or really. I don't see it that way. I read the article and put it into the context of Obama's attitude and policy towards Muslim nations. I believe that Obama would very much like to expand the US relationship beyond the cheerleader capacity he's using NASA for now. I don't actually care what you believe. It's irrelevant. You believe something that is not asserted in this thread, nor is is asserted with a casual or in depth look at current geopolitics. You've obviously not chosen to support your beliefs either, which leads me to believe that you can't. When you plunk down some knowledge in this thread concerning what you have claimed (That obama wants to share tech that can be weaponized with regimes that consensually support terrorism) I'll change my tune. Until then expect more of the really high, really agressive horse.
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