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Hi,

I want to be sure that I understand the rule correctly.

Example: If a warrior prime joins a unit who consists of 1 venomthrope the unit has now T5 against both shooting and close combat attacks.

Am I correct?

Thank you

Leto2 wrote:Hi,

I want to be sure that I understand the rule correctly.

Example: If a warrior prime joins a unit who consists of 1 venomthrope the unit has now T5 against both shooting and close combat attacks.

Am I correct?

Thank you

No, you are not correct.

It is only for Shooting. In Close Combat, the Prime counts as a separate unit. So you have two units, one of 1 T5 model and one of 1 T4 model.

Against shooting Yes but because the Warrior Prime is an IC you do not get the majority toughness in close combat because you hit them as 2 different units.

OK, I understand now. Thank you guys.

Sigmatron wrote:Against shooting Yes but because the Warrior Prime is an IC you do not get the majority toughness in close combat because you hit them as 2 different units.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, isn't that assuming that in CC, the enemy has a model in base-to-base contact with the prime?

Example: Prime is hiding with the venomthropes.

A group of assault marines well, assault.

The prime is NOT in base-to-base contact with any of the marines.

Now IIRC, the enemy would have to attack the unit using the majority toughness, which is 5, right?

No, you Recall Incorrectly.

Notwithstanding this is actually Impossible to do, since the Prime gets a 6" defenders react move, Models attacking the Venomthrope use the Venomethrope Units majority toughness (in this case, 4) and those who attack the Prime use the Primes toughness of 5.

Ah... thank you for clearing that up for me!

Although this does work it none of the models are independant characters. Say my wraithguard unit gets shot up and there is only 1 left, and the warlock. since there is no majority you use the highest T value, being 6, for shooting and close combat. If that squad of 2 would be joined by a farseer... the majority T from shooting in now 3. But in combat the farseer is targeted seperatly, meaning the farseer is T3, and the 2 models from the origianal unit are still T6.

This is news to me, I assume the same rule applies to a Warboss in a unit of Nobs? What if the Nob mob has a Pain Boy, does the Warboss get the Feel no Pain in CC? Since he's treated as a single model unit he shouldn't right?

Limbo wrote:This is news to me, I assume the same rule applies to a Warboss in a unit of Nobs? What if the Nob mob has a Pain Boy, does the Warboss get the Feel no Pain in CC? Since he's treated as a single model unit he shouldn't right?

The warboss still benefits from FNP. He is treated as a seperate unit for attacks only. He is, for all intents and purposes, still attached to the squad of nobs.

How about a platoon officer with Nork as the bodyguard?

If only the officer and Nork remains, since neither are IC, the majority toughness would be used for the assault?

Yes.