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Well, the army lists that GW publishes in WD or at GW site are generally made by GW employees,
like layouters, miniature designers, game designers, writers, and editorial journalists.
These lists are often semi-competitive or bad, and the tactical advices given fit well to the lists.

Question: Do we need some pros (more or less professional players) to provide army lists and explain tactics?
Or is it fine as it is?

Am I a WAAC gamer? then B
Am I a casual /Fluff gamer? then A

I like the fun/fluff elements but wish there were some more comp list building.

besides it is GW's mag, they can do what the hell they want with it.

Maybe there should be another option on your poll?

How about a mix, I'm not really waiting for a bunch of pros to run things into the ground by showing off their WAAC lists and telling you what you shouldn't take.

Added two more options as suggested...

I voted for 'hell' then.

We'll just get worked up about what GW are doing anyway whilst GW carry on regardless.

I'd love to see the definition of "Pro", and how many people immediately jump to put themself in the pool.

There's also not much need, as there aren't many army lists in this catagory, and they are rarely, if ever, allowed in tournaments. Since I'm sure the definition of pro will revolve around how many tournaments someone has won, it's seems contradictory to have such an individul rework an army list for casual play.

If you're playig with a gnoblar army, it's not because you want to win.)

mikhaila wrote:I'd love to see the definition of "Pro", and how many people immediately jump to put themself in the pool.

There's also not much need, as there aren't many army lists in this catagory, and they are rarely, if ever, allowed in tournaments. Since I'm sure the definition of pro will revolve around how many tournaments someone has won, it's seems contradictory to have such an individul rework an army list for casual play.

If you're playig with a gnoblar army, it's not because you want to win.)

Trust me, i'm a pro.
(Disclaimer-Mega lie)

Whatever the hell they want, it's their magazine... said I...

The lists are nice too look through though, I remember a few actually being quite competitive. (Some assault marine spam list, don't remember anything about it, other than they were painted very nicely....)

Hi all.
I personally prefer it when GW has 'ordianry peoples armies' in it.
Eg not one restricted to whatever 'Eavy Metal painted units happen to be laying around the studio.'

Some say WAAC powergamer lists are one dimentional and restrictive.
Well so are the 'everything we have painted up at the moment ,and made up an half assed background for'.

When GW featured average painted armies with cost effective conversions that belonged to people living in the real world, it inspired me far more.

But back then WD was 'Games Workshops monthly games supliment and Citadel Minatures cataluge.'

Now its just a 'Monthly Citadel Minatures catalogue.'
So you get what you pay for I suppose...

TTFN

I don't honestly care, provided its from players. The army has to have something special about it, be it modelling, painting, fluff or game-power, but I think it should be about a player's list. Take, for example, a Necron army they featured, of a player. It was a nice Necron list where a player had crust all over his models, and put them into dynamic poses. That sort of thing is good. But let's leave out the advertising. I'm fine with seeing a bit of a new kit, or having new images, but when that's the majority of the magazine, it's ridiculous.