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This is just something that has come up at my FLGC and it started me wondering.We are currently running a league at this level and my friend running CSM has had constant trouble with getting a list to compete consistently with the other armies involved.It made me want to look into this and i will be getting my hands on a CSM codex so i can compare and contrast with my Loyalist lists to see if it is possible to get to an even level for them on the table.Or do they only begin to compete at the higher point levels ? Thoughts and advice welcomed,thanks.

you can bring a trio of Defilers/Vindicators/mix, your squads only need 5 guys to get a special weapon. Rhinos can get a combi-melta, a lot of rhinos can cause trouble. tiny squads of dedicated followers of a single chaos god can cause a lot of damage, after all, your Beserkers don't need to wipe out the enemy, just cause more wounds than them then wipe them out. and a flying Daemon Prince brings death to one well chosen target (and later some more carnage maybe), with Demolisher cannons floating about your opponent is almost guaranteed to not shoot at you Daemon Prince(s)

I'd say so... here's a list I thought up that should probably be fairly competitive...

HQ: Sorcerer (warp time) - 125 pts

Troops: 7x plague marines (2x melta) in rhino - 216 pts
Troops: 7x plague marines (2x melta, champ w/ power sword) in rhino - 246 pts
Troops: 7x plague marines (2x melta, champ w/ fist) in rhino - 256 pts

Heavy: Obliterator - 75 pts
Heavy: Obliterator - 75 pts

Troops: 8xzerkers in rhinos, fistychamp - 235ish x 2
HQ: Khorne DP with wings, 140

Spend erst on defilers, obliterators etc. The above is a solid core as most armies dont have enough dakka at 1k to take down a prince if you dont just stand him in front of their army.

Thanks guys,i will pass this on and work on 1 or 2 of my own to see if i can come up with something to cheer my friend up.He has been a bit despondant (sp?) lately at his lack of success.