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So a friend of mine is deciding to jump into 40k at our FLGS and in our friendly games every weekend he’s decided to go with CSM and Ive volunteered to help him build a list and I will play him proxying the army before he commits to buying and model.

He like the idea of a Nurgle/CSM armor column sort of idea with demonic possession on tanks so here is my take on a list using units he likes

HQ:
Demon Price, MoN, Wings, Warptime - 175pts

Troops:
8x Plague Marines, Champion, P-Fist, 2x Meltaguns, Rhino - 279pts
10 CSM Champion, Power wep, Rhino – 215pts

Heavy Support:
Vindicator, demonic possession -145pts
Vindicator, demonic possession -145pts

This puts 4 tanks and 1 toughness 6 MC on the table which I know for my armies would be quite a challenge at 1000pts

This still leaves 41pts to work with and Im also open for changes in upgrades and such since I dont play Chaos myself I may have made a mistake or missed something

Thanks in advance

Looks good, The only stand-alone thing I can think of for 40 points is a Chaos Spawn, but other than that, I believe you could put havoc launchers on the vindicators, and still have 10 points for something like...A combi-melta on each vinidcator

Oh, and what does that unit of CSM have on them? If nothing, I recommend either flamers or meltas

Alright thanks for the help

I was wondering whether it was a good idea to put 1 flamer and 1 melta in each squad for versatility

Playing Eldar each squad has its own battle field task so mixing weapons in favor of versatility is a bad idea but does the same rule apply for CSM?

This is just my opinion but there are some things I would change. To be fair many people take a DP. I dont, as I see that it attracts a ton of fire. It is your choice regardless but if you did I know the most common DP is a Slaanesh one with Lash. Your troops are sounds. I always use the magic number for the certain gods but that is just me. To be honest I am not a fan of vindicators either and I think 2 in 1k points is to much. Again, it is your choice but when it comes to Chaos tanks I only use LRs as I dont think Predators or Vindicators are good. Instead of those I would look into some termies or perhaps some chosen in a rhino. All up to you but that is my 2 cents.

Thanks for the input

Im unfamiliar with the tactics or common builds/ battlefield role of Chosen

if anyone would be kind enough to enlighten me I would be quite grateful Im assuming they take advantage to Infiltrate to push CC?

Chosen have infiltrate, which can possibly be usefull. Also, I believe they can take 5 meltaguns, which is cool.. Other than that, they cost a little too much for my tastes. I usually opt for terminators instead.

I use my Chosen as tank destroyers. I load up with the mark of Tzeentch to give them an invunerable. Buy them 3-4 Meltaguns, a Rhino, and a Power Weapon or Fist. I then use their Infiltrate to roll out and kill the first prime target tank I can find. Infiltrate 12-18 inches away. First turn move all out 12', disembark 2', Now your within double penetration range. The next round of fire will hurt but I find that with the invulnerable they last and always make their points. They could be used as a CC monster but Termies would be better for that.

Yeah, that's a pretty good use for them. They can REALLY cause serious damage with meltas. And with 4 of them, they could definitely cause damage to infantry as well.

Alright ill have to suggest thatidea to him then thanks alot for the advice

your welcome....all for the continued glory of chaos!

Plight wrote:This is just my opinion but there are some things I would change. To be fair many people take a DP. I dont, as I see that it attracts a ton of fire. It is your choice regardless but if you did I know the most common DP is a Slaanesh one with Lash. Your troops are sounds. I always use the magic number for the certain gods but that is just me. To be honest I am not a fan of vindicators either and I think 2 in 1k points is to much. Again, it is your choice but when it comes to Chaos tanks I only use LRs as I dont think Predators or Vindicators are good. Instead of those I would look into some termies or perhaps some chosen in a rhino. All up to you but that is my 2 cents.

Vindicators can do some serious damage at close range. so long as it does scatter back on you lol. the DP might get some heavy fire but the other player is also going to have to worry about the tanks coming up in his face.

you are correct that vindicators can do much damage but for me, I am more comfortable not using scatter weapons. As for a DP yes they are good but I personally run a Chaos Termie Lord, Mark of Khorne, with Bloodfeeder. I seem to get more bang for my buck that way. My chosen have never let me down either and that is why I prefer them to a Vindicator. There is no right or wrong answer, just depends on your personally opinion and what you are comfortable with.

I like chosen just because they can outflank and go SURPRISE! melta/plasma Shots

with those extra points put a fist on the CSM squad and add in 2x meltas on it. And extra armour on a rhino most people wont mind you being over 4 points.

Drop the daemonic possessions, maybe add a havoc squad with missiles. That army would surely by easily taken out by something like the Tau. Even at 1000 points, range-based armies can still field at least one thing that can whoop vindicators.

Alright I do agree with that and havoc squads do seem effective, and I wont be relying on just two tanks as much