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2010/07/15 23:55:24
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Say I have a unit of bulls, 3 wide 3 deep with full command, then join a character to them. What happens? Does one of the command slip to the second rank, or does the character, or do I have to make my ranks 4 wide? Or something else entirely?
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2010/07/16 00:00:00
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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One of the command moves to the second rank, and you lose the benefit.
I suggest the champion....
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2010/07/16 00:02:29
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I don't think you lose the benefit if you move the banner to the second rank.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2010/07/16 00:26:23
Subject: Re:Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Command must be in the front rank, if there is no room for characters in the front rank, they go to the second.
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2010/07/16 05:05:54
Subject: Re:Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Command must be in the front rank, if there is no room for characters in the front rank, they go to the second.
Funnily enough, the BRB says the exact same thing about the command: If there's no room, one or more must be placed in the second rank. Which takes precedence?
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2010/07/16 05:16:09
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Interestingly enough, I believe that the command takes precedence since the BRB mentions on page 97 that the command group can not be moved back to make room for characters.
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2010/07/16 09:03:53
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Damn that seems crazy....another one of those subtle changes that is not at all obvious!
It seems that the command group rules only allow members of the command group to move to the second rank if there are too many command group models in the front rank - as the characters rules state the command models cannot be moved.
So order of prefernce is:
move characters to back ranks; if still no room then
Move command models; no penalty for not being in the front.
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2010/07/16 12:53:21
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Gnawing Giant Rat
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Remember though, being monstrous infantry allows the character Ogre to throw 3 attacks forward. Not the full compliment, but better than 1.
A smarter move is go 4 wide.
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2010/07/16 14:24:26
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Also you can throw attacks forward but not be hit back....
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2010/07/16 23:40:17
Subject: Re:Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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Couldnt you just make way for the character during combat? So unengaged, the character has to sit in the second rank, but when the fighting starts, he can use make way to push the musician to the back?
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2010/07/17 09:23:31
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That would still contradict the "where the command group may sit" rules - you COULD go there but it would break a rule, so you cannot.
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2010/07/17 13:00:27
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Regular Dakkanaut
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"You can change him with a Rank and File Model, including the command group that are in contact with the enemy"
BRB pg 100
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2010/07/17 15:17:10
Subject: Ogres Full Command and Characters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fair enough, good to know - musician gets pushed aside...
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