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Space Wolf 1500 pts. 1 list for all games. ( take on all ) My first few game will be VS. Ork and Tau.
I want to use only the 1 list to use @ FLGS. When I get a set list, I can go back and finish painting, unit markings ect.
I have 2 HQ characters. I have seen Njal win a game ( jump pack army using Tempest Wrath )
I went with Canis for my wolf pack. He is a good value. None of this is carved in stone.
I have never used Drop pods.

HQ:
Njal
Canis Wolfborn:

Fast attack
Fenrisian Wolf Pack X 5:

Troops
GH X 5.Melta gun, Rhino : Njal ’s ride.
GH X 5 Melta gun (80) Defend Back field/Speed bump

GH X 10, 2 Flamers,MotW ,PW ,Banner) Drop Pod #1) Missile Pod
GH X 10, 2 Flamers,MotW ,PW ,Banner) Drop Pod #2), Storm Bolter
GH X 5( Flamer,Drop Pod(35) #3 Storm Bolter

Heavy Support:
Long Fangs X 6 missiles X5
Vindicator

Canis is a bit of a waste for only 5 wolves.

Njal is super high profile - I have a hard time seeing him in any army without a Land Raider, especially in light of your list being split between light armor and pods. It gives your opponent at 1500 points too great an opportunity to turn Njal into a walking living lightning for the rest of the game.

Long fangs are good, vindi is fine, but right now it's too easy to target prioritize your army. Even most assault armies can nullify one rhino and drop pod/range your vindi and then the rest is attrition from your pods and their army.

My suggestion at 1500:

use only one pod with a flamer and small squad to flush out backfield targets. convert the other two 10 mans to rhino squads. Add a vindi. Drop the 80 point 5 man you have sitting in the back. They're a point sink with no use in the game. If someone wants to hit an objective, 5 dudes with a meltagun don't seem like they'll stop any nasty infiltrators or deep strikers. If you want Njal, consider making your rhinos razorback squads and put him in a rhino squad so the enemy is forced to decide between your guns and your character.




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Oh, and I think it goes without saying that I'd drop the wolves and Canis. Any points left, I'd do what I said above and perhaps add another juicy target/hard hitter. Maybe a dual autocannon Dread.

I have a rhino for NJal to cast spells from. He is expensive, just for the extra "Storm" results.
It's true for his 2nd non attack spell, there aren't many choices. (yes, tempest wraith has it's use)

What about a basic Ruin Priest. Do you think Terminator Armor or in a rhino is best? (ruin armor inside a rhino ?).
It is sad but true the RP is a LL machine. Taking out IC's. When things get close use JotWW.
The Rhino is the only vehicle that has fire points for RP to shoot spells out of.

I can drop the pods(lol) and just use 1. For kill points I am handing over 105 kill pts for the 3 pods.(that's how it works?)
Most forces I go aginst, there is large long range unit in the opponent deployment zone. Pounding away at anything not in a transport, with Lots of shots,15 flashgets? (I lose my term RP to them)
I wanted to use pod to deal with them. Suggestions ?

My only win was because I used 2 Cheesed out TWL

If you want to get close to the enemy's long range fire power, Rhinos or Bikes are the best way to go. Unless you feel ballsy and deep strike Terminators in there. Or a whirlwind, maybe?

I am not a fan of Canis. He is pretty fragile especially in this list with only 5 ablative wounds. I would also caution against sinking a ton of points into two characters at 1500 points.

5 Troop choices, of which 3 are pretty thin...Seems like this needs a little bit of rehashing.

At 1500 points...you have to be careful which H.Q.'s you choose if you're going for a top heavy list...Canis is not one you want in a Top Heavy list unless he has a lot of support. He just doesn't hit hard enough as compared to many of his counterparts.

The Drop Pods look mean as can be; however, I think you might be better suited in putting Melta's in the Drop Pods as compared to the Flamers...or you could do 1 pod Melta, the other flamer. I say this as you are more likely to Drop Pod into a Parking lot than the actual mosh pit...

For the price of Canis, I would take another Vindicator and with the Wolves being taken out, I would use the points to buff those squads with some more warm bodies.

Having melta sitting in the backfield isn't really a good idea as your threat range with the weapon is almost non-existent (your opponent will just skirt those 12").

Word of caution, careful where you place your pie plates...one wrong drift and you could say bye bye to almost 200 points of a unit from a single Demolisher shot when those Drop Pods are around.

Personally, I would take 2x Long Fangs and a Vindicator...but I'm just crazy like that.

The Rhino is the only SM/SW vehicle that has shooting ports to cast spells out of. No LR. I have used generic RP as LL and sometimes JotWW machines.
I guess the question is : Is Njal and his storm ability worth a extra 145 pts? I only used Canis 1 times and he died 1st round of combat.
I tried to make a Canis from the WL wargear list. He is a good value but He is not complete. He needs some protection. I agree I should drop canis.
When my opponent uses his Orks, he has 15 lootas that do major damage. I use LL spell and missile:krak and frag it's not enough. The ork force is a speed ork force turbo boots and is in my line by turn 2.

I do rush fowward with the Rhino's we seem to have the battle close to my deployment zone.

SW are stuck with Blood Claws and IMHO stink/Suc. SW bikes and jump troops are lame.

I get a unit of Ork Nob bikers at my flank real quick. I need to somehow stop/block that until I can kill them off. Most of the time they hit my vindi and lighter support vehicle. His grand prize is to Trap a rhino full of troops to have it blow up with no chance of the unit escaping. All doors blocked.
Space Wolves don't teleport.

I do like LF, I use 2 full squads a lot. I like to use razerbacks w/ TL LC or TL Can. I need all the fire power
I can get when my dice rolls are sucking.
I should beef them up. Suggestions (make it a 6 GH unit and )??

Can the "Drop Pod assault" consist of only 1 pod? I need to take care of backfield shooters.
Template weapons are something I did not think about. With my luck I would nuke my own dop pod units.

Unholy_Martyr- " It's reality Challenged" not crazy. lol

This list does need alot of work. I am trying to cover too many aspects. RP Spells, TW lord to get into the opponents backfield to kill off the lighter troops.
(lootas).
I wanted to use the pods for a 2 front battle for the opponent. I don't seem to get the vindicators in range before they are assaulted ( the cover save for speed or deviation from 1 shot)
I am not defending my list, I want to share the Hurtles I have to face. How I can over come them. I know of several more mech and speed freak Ork players.
All posting replies ARE taken into consideration. Yes a LR of some type would be fun. Some WL builds would be helpful.