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Had an unfriendly debate with a person at my local gaming store about a piece of wargear in the witch hunters codex. I made the comment that I thought the item gave me a psuedo stubborn bubble and the guy exploded on me about how i totally had the rule wrong, which might be true, but I wanted to see if anyone else could try to explain it to me, without shouting please.

The item in question states that "any model within 6" may use the bearers unmodified leadership value for any morale checks and pinning tests it is required to take."

now i read that as I use the unmodified leadership value of the unit, even if i lose close combat, or have something like the broodlords psychic power that lowers leadership, effectively making the unit and all units within 6" stubborn. Now i know the codex is old and outdated but am i wrong here?

His argument was that you took the unmodified leadership value and then modified for the result of close combat, but that seems to be counter intuitive, because you are modifiying an umodifiable value. at the same time in 3rd ed, the IG codex had a similar thing going with it Vox casters, but they read "Any unit may use the leadership of the HQ officers for a sinle morale or leadership test", which as i understood could be modified by combat resolutions and other factors.

sorry that this post was so long. hope someone out there can point out the right interpretation.

Nope, you are correct, he is wrong.

Its the most photocopied book in the WH army....

Unmodified, aye. Something to make up for the bad long-range anti-tank capabilities, crappy but expensive wargear and expensive vehicles in the codex.

It's one of the best piece of wargear in the game.

If you keep a squad of seraphim close to them you effectively have a ld10 bubble which means your sisters will almost never break.

The best part however is the "May' in the item description. It gives you the option to use it or not. Get assaulted by terminators? Opt not to use the book, fallback and shoot those terminators with divine guidance on your next turn. Anything that can sweep, you can likely bog them down. Anything that cant sweep had better hope to wipe the squad in a single assault.

I'm afraid that the proximity of Seraphim won't matter to the book. Unmodified means no modifications not no negative modifications so you would not get the benefit of the +1 to non-Seraphim units Ld scores if you are using the book.