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Huntsman




Cold North


Greetings everyone!
I have been out of the loop for a few years, finishing studies and other real life things getting in the way, now I am looking to get back into the game and needing a clarification on how something is played.

So I have decided to come back to the game as Tau (too much hassle re-doing all my Tyranids, and my Slaanesh biker army doesn't really work as it's either), so I have been looking at my options, and Marker Beacon caught my eye.

Basically it allows re-rolling of Scatter dice, and this is what I want a little help in clarifying. Page 95 of the rulebook details the Deep Strike rules, and there it tells me to roll Scatter, then roll the deviation distance if a 'hit' is not rolled. So by rolling the Scatter dice first, then re-rolling it if I see necessary, and finally rolling the deviation distance seems to be the correct way to play this.

Why I mainly ask is that I have seen already atleast one person roll the Scatter dice alongside the two dice for deviation, and then re-rolled the Scatter dice. It seems to me this is incorrect, as you have knowledge of the distance deviated, and thus can estimate if you'd deviate, for example, into impassable terrain and need to re-roll the Scatter dice.

I would like both RAW clarification (I think I have it right, would be nice to hear it from someone else too though) aswell as any opinions and thoughts about the last paragraph of my post, is it incorrectly played if you roll both Scatter dice and the deviation at same time, and then re-roll the Scatter if necessary.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut




RAW, rolling scatter is taking the scatter dice and 2D6 and rolling them together.

So you pick up all 3 dice and roll again if you get to reroll.
   
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nosferatu1001 wrote:RAW, rolling scatter is taking the scatter dice and 2D6 and rolling them together.

So you pick up all 3 dice and roll again if you get to reroll.
Nos, that is not what RaW says for Scattering. That's only for Blast Weapons.

For Deep Strike Scatter, you roll the Scatter Die, and if it's an Arrow, you roll 2D6, if it's a hit, you don't roll anything.

In this case, it can be interpreted that Scatter Die means exactly that, just the Scatter die.

However, as it says Scatter DICE (plural), I would tend to agree with Nos in that all the dice are re-rolled, meaning if your first result is a scatter, you re-roll the distance for the second result if it too is a scatter.

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However they never use die/dice - they only seem to use "dice", ignoring singular and plural...
   
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It's true that they never differentiate between "a die" and "dice" which is part reason I used the word "scatter dice" throughout my post.

Thank you Gwar, the literal reading does make me think it should be played as of rolling the scatter first, then re-rolling it, and finally rolling deviation distance. Suppose it's yet another thing to discuss with opponent in friendly games.

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One thing to remember, whichever way you decide to roll the dice, is that it says to reroll the scatter dice...all of them. So if you have agreed that it means that you can roll all the dice and then decide to reroll, you then need to reroll all of the dice again, not just the distance or the direction/ hit die.

So if you reroll, reroll all or none, dont pick and choose. Sometimes people want to only reroll part of the dice and that is not allowed, unless you have an ability that allows you to reroll only one die.


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With this instance, does it state reroll the scatter dice or reroll the distance scattered? One would be reroll of ALL the dice and one would only be the 2d6.
   
 
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