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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 16:44:49
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Fresh-Faced New User
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hi, its about 1 year since last game, next saturday we got game with my friend, he got space wolves, i have this army, what you think?
hq
1 Big Mek, kff - 85
1 Big Mek, kff - 85
170
elites
10 lootas - 150
10 lootas - 150
300
troops
28 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, pk, bosspole - 208
28 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, pk, bosspole - 208
28 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, pk, bosspole - 208
624
heavy support
3 killa kans, grotzookas - 135
3 killa kans, grotzookas - 135
3 killa kans, grotzookas - 135
405
1499
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This message was edited 9 times. Last update was at 2010/07/23 09:06:23
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 16:50:40
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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As a Space Wolf Player, I'll tell you this:
1) Don't think your Big Mek's will need Power Klaws as the Kans and Deff Dreads will be bringing plenty of S10 pain.
2) Everything you have is marching across the field...if I were you, I would look into squeezing 3 Deff Koptas, each as an individual unit to act as early harassment for your opponent.
As Kan Walls go, this is pretty much the cookie cutter base, I would just try and make those small changes just to keep your opponent on his toes.
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"United States Marine Corps: When it absolutely and positively has to be destroyed overnight"
"If all else fails, empty the magazine" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 17:16:39
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Switch your PK's to be Burnas if you must have a weapon on your Big Mek, he'll die before swinging at I1.
I'd try to get some Rokkits on your Kans and some Koptas in the list by dropping the Dreads. @ 1500pts dreads are too expensive for what they do.
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Orks W-L-D
27-10-8
Daemons W-L-D
6-5-3
Warboss Lemmy's Speed Freaks: 1730pts painted
+ Skullbearers: 750pts painted
DT:90S++G+MB-I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/hWD-R+++T(T)DM+
My Battle Reports: Orks against: Tau , Tau , Tau |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 17:29:03
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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Fresh-Faced New User
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thx for comments  i made some fixes, add lootas, maybe bad idea? what do you think about now?
ok, this take time before saturday, i fix first list above, and comments welcome.
i put back boyz in mob, 20 seems to be too small.
hmm
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/07/22 17:38:21
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 17:33:14
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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I see you reduced the number of boyz in your list. This is bad, never do this. Boyz before toyz is the axiom of any Ork player. It means if you have to trade boyz for something, it's probably not worth it.
Drop the Lootas, get 6 Rokkits on your Kans.
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Orks W-L-D
27-10-8
Daemons W-L-D
6-5-3
Warboss Lemmy's Speed Freaks: 1730pts painted
+ Skullbearers: 750pts painted
DT:90S++G+MB-I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/hWD-R+++T(T)DM+
My Battle Reports: Orks against: Tau , Tau , Tau |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 18:13:15
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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i made fixed you told, how about now? see first post ---
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 18:16:09
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Rokkits are hit or miss, with BS 3.
I'd go with grotzookas all the way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 18:24:22
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Rokkits are god awful on Dreads, get a Skorcha or another DCCW.
You need anti-tank, keep the Rokkits on the Kans.
TBH, I'd drop the dread entirely and get some Buzzsaws on your Koptas.
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Orks W-L-D
27-10-8
Daemons W-L-D
6-5-3
Warboss Lemmy's Speed Freaks: 1730pts painted
+ Skullbearers: 750pts painted
DT:90S++G+MB-I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/hWD-R+++T(T)DM+
My Battle Reports: Orks against: Tau , Tau , Tau |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 18:29:00
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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Fresh-Faced New User
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i have never used buzzsaws, can you advice me how i play with them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 18:33:17
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Their PKs for Koptas that get a STR 7 on the charge. So Turbo boost on the scout move, then move 12 inches, fire your TL rockets into side or rear armor, then assault with your buzz saw.
I would def get rid of the Deff Dread and add the buzz saws. Claypools right...2 deff Koptas with TL rockets only just wont cut it.
everything else looks pretty good. I like Lootas however and think their a must for Kan wall support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 18:33:38
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Basically, if you go first, deploy your Koptas as close to the enemy as possible. Then move 24" during your scout phase (remember you have to end your move 12" away from an enemy unit). Then, during your first turn, move 12" to get an inch away from an enemy tank, shoot it with your Rokkiits and then assault it. Because the tank did not move in the previous turn, all your attacks automatically hit. Assaults always resolve against rear armor so you usually get 3 S7 hits against AV 10, penning on a 4+. If you go second, deploy your Koptas in reserve and outflank them so you can get side or rear armor shots later in the game. More info can be found here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Ork_Deffkopter_Tactica EDIT: ninja'd!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/07/22 18:34:28
Orks W-L-D
27-10-8
Daemons W-L-D
6-5-3
Warboss Lemmy's Speed Freaks: 1730pts painted
+ Skullbearers: 750pts painted
DT:90S++G+MB-I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/hWD-R+++T(T)DM+
My Battle Reports: Orks against: Tau , Tau , Tau |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 18:58:25
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 19:02:10
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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Fresh-Faced New User
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am i goin to wrong direction with my list, see up?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 19:04:04
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Yes, you don't need Lootas in this list. You have plenty of anti-tank.
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Orks W-L-D
27-10-8
Daemons W-L-D
6-5-3
Warboss Lemmy's Speed Freaks: 1730pts painted
+ Skullbearers: 750pts painted
DT:90S++G+MB-I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/hWD-R+++T(T)DM+
My Battle Reports: Orks against: Tau , Tau , Tau |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 19:12:42
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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Fresh-Faced New User
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ok  now i put my kid on bed, back soon... put new list up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 19:14:06
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Go kombi-skorcha on your Big Meks and you've got a very solid list.
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Orks W-L-D
27-10-8
Daemons W-L-D
6-5-3
Warboss Lemmy's Speed Freaks: 1730pts painted
+ Skullbearers: 750pts painted
DT:90S++G+MB-I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/hWD-R+++T(T)DM+
My Battle Reports: Orks against: Tau , Tau , Tau |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 19:15:49
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Yeah, it's pretty much as good as it gets now with the list you have. I'd roll with that.
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"United States Marine Corps: When it absolutely and positively has to be destroyed overnight"
"If all else fails, empty the magazine" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 22:20:39
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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Fresh-Faced New User
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done...thx! Automatically Appended Next Post: hehe, i woke up and put alternative second list up! Automatically Appended Next Post: hmm, i try lootas, i put new list, i thought im done, but so many variations keep my mind busy
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/07/22 23:43:00
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 05:20:44
Subject: kanwall orks 1.5k
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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You'll find that the options will keep flowing for your ork army! Try each configuration to see which works the best over all and go from there!
Enjoy the WAAAAGH!!!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/07/23 05:21:14
Waaagh! Skarshak - Back after being lost in the Warp, an' ready to Krump sum 'eads! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 07:38:45
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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Fresh-Faced New User
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yeah, i test this list on saturday, btw, my second option is battlewagon bash, third option green tide. only got 3 options to play competitive i think...need check rulebook, 1 year and no games... cya soon, i tell on sunday how kanwall worked...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 22:14:19
Subject: Re:kanwall orks 1.5k
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Fresh-Faced New User
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btw, which i should use vs. space wolves, kans grotzookas or rokkits? i heard rokkits miss often and grotzookas awesome, but stil im thinking.
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