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Scarab with a Cracked Shell




See that shadow gainst the wall?..Bingo!

Hi people of Dakka, just a question buzzing around at my FLG if a Vampire lord has the Forbidden Lore and Spectral Form (Knows any one Lore and is an Ethereal) vampiric powers and casts the level 6 lore of beasts spell does he still have the Ethereal rule? (I know it may seem OP if true but still)

Squigs

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Decrepit Dakkanaut




Covered in BRB FAQ - you still have any special rules associated with your character.
   
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Squig wrote:Hi people of Dakka, just a question buzzing around at my FLG if a Vampire lord has the Forbidden Lore and Spectral Form (Knows any one Lore and is an Ethereal) vampiric powers and casts the level 6 lore of beasts spell does he still have the Ethereal rule? (I know it may seem OP if true but still)

Squigs


It really isn't all that terribly OP. Odds are, even if you get the spell off, your opponent will dispel it in his turn.

Even if they don't dispel it, if you cast the spell and attack as a big scary monster all on your own, your opponent's unit will more than likely be stubborn and stick around. Then, he can flank/rear charge the monster. Even if he doesn't do many wounds to the critter, he'll probably win through combat resolution with ranks, banner, charge, flank/rear, BSB, etc.

Remember, the vamp/dragon keeps ALL special rules, so he still crumbles.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




And if you take 4 wounds, have the spell dispelled you then die as the spell states wounds carry across....

Very very dangerous for your general!
   
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Stoic Grail Knight



Houston, Texas

Yup i was really nervous about this spell until i actually saw it in practice. Lord gets it off unresistably (the high level version) and charges alone into a big block of slaves slaughtering tons of them, they are still steadfast and manage to put 2-3 wounds on him...

Next turn the dispell goes off and POOF dead level 4 wizard, and general!

Daemons-
Bretonnia-
Orcs n' Goblins-  
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




However stick it on a level 2 cheapo caster and it can be quite a threat.

One great thing about 8th - single big monsters, no matter how scary, struggle to break infantry by themselves (unless the infantry are skirmishers outside of woods.....)
   
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Stoic Grail Knight



Houston, Texas

The only thing i didnt like was that it effectively shut down my next magic phase. You really really want it dispelled so you throw a bunch of dice at it...

Kind of annoying.

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Bretonnia-
Orcs n' Goblins-  
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




Meh, you throw as many dice into dispelling throne from Life, as you really dont want D6+1 Temple Guard getting back up every turn...
   
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Scarab with a Cracked Shell




See that shadow gainst the wall?..Bingo!

Thanks for clearing that up guys, I may use it In a game or 2 to see what its like.

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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress






Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

I seriously recommend against this for two reasons.

1. For a start the nastiest thing about Vampire stats is that you get a nasty'monster' on an infantry base. a Vampire benefits less than say an Empire Wizard evn with all the other benefits.
I fear Vampire most when they are tucked away in infantry blocks, chainsawing rank and file.

2. A Vampire that is transformed into a big monster is a Vampire that is not casting Danse Macabre and a raising spell. Any other spell you cast uses power that should be used for one of the two listed above is in some ways a step back for the army.

n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.

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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos





On the perfumed wind

Whoa, Orlanth. 10x multiple posts? That's got to be a record. I thought Dakka corrected that automatically, though...

I agree- the Ethereal caster with Beast Lore is specifically available only to a Lord. That seems like something of a drawback.

Although, it's been pointed out that this would work with Red Fury too- which gets a little alarming...

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Glendale, AZ

Wow. I'd say Orlanth REALLY recommends you not do this.

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Et In Arcadia Ego





Canterbury

.. hmm bugtastic indeed. All fixed now though, thanks for the alerts.

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Made in gb
Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress






Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

Actually I didnt see it turn up at all. Eventually I gave up trying to add the post.

n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.

It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. 
   
 
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