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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/31 13:34:43
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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I have an upcoming mini-tournament coming up and I wish to try out Harlequins. Here is my list:
HQ:
Eldrad with 3 Warlocks with 1 Singing Spear, 1 Destructor, 1 Enhance and 1 Embolden - 318
Phoenix Lord Fuegan, The Burning Lance - 205
Elites:
5 Fire Dragons including an Exarch with Firepike and Crack Shot - 105
10 Harlequins with 7 Harlequins Kisses and 2 Fusion Pistols including Troupe Master with Power Weapon and Shadowseer and Death Jester - 288
Troops:
8 Dire Avengers including an Exarch with Power Weapon and Simmershield and Defend and Bladestorm in a Wave Serpent with Twin-Linked Eldar Missile Launcher and Shuriken Cannon and Spirit Stones - 283
5 Rangers all upgraded to Pathfinders - 120
Heavy Support:
Falcon with Eldar Missile Launcher and Holo-Fields and Spirit Stones - 180
Total: 1499 Points
Tactics:
I plan to have Eldrad and the Warlocks in the Wave Serpent with the Dire Avengers. He can back them up with Fortunes, Guides and Dooms. The Fire Dragons with Fuegan will be in the Falcon, heading straight for enemy vehicles. The Harlequins will remain hidden to pop out and mash infantry units in assault. The Pathfinders will simply sit on an Objective. Please comment any advice. Thanks in advance.
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[W/D/L]
Eldar: 13/1/5 (latest win: Blood Angels - 1500 Points; latest draw: with Grey Knights vs Chaos and Dark Eldar vs Blood Angels - 3700 Points; latest loss: Space Marines - 1500 Points)
Blood Angels: 10/2/1 (latest win: vs Grey Knights - 1000 Points; latest draw: Tau Empire and Orks - 1000 Points; latest loss: Tau Empire - 750 Points)
Orks: 0/0/0
Tyranids: 0/0/0
Lizardmen: 0/0/0
High Elves: 0/0/0 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/31 13:58:49
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Furious Fire Dragon
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A few things. Eldrad can't go into the Wave Serpent with the DA's unless he's alone as an IC. The Retinue of warlocks make him a squad and thus he can't join units.
Harlequins are too hopped up, get rid of the troupe master (too many points for an upgrade of 1 attack and a PW) and the DJ who really isn't needed. Just take a squad with a shadowseer and all kisses and pistols.
Fire dragons don't need to be in a Falcon made for long distance killing. That's just... weird. Get them a serpent. DA's are better suited to being in a falcon. Also, both Fuegan and an exarch with a firepike are OVERKILL. just use 5 and fuegan, or 5 with exarch, or just 6 normal ones. They'll kill just about anything.
Obviously you'll need to decide what to do with the warlocks because your plan for them is illegal.
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Zain~
http://ynnead-rising.blogspot.com/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 16:43:09
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Sorry, but its a mess.
Drop Fuegan and the FD Exarch. Give the FDs as said a Serpent with stones and shuricannon.
Beef up the DA to 10 men and give the Exarch blade storm, nothing else. The DA units shouldn't be shot (by clever deployment) if possibly and never been charged.
You need to decide what to do with the HQ.
Eldrad is too expensive at the 1500 pt level and 3 Warlocks are never enough.
Take a FortuneSeer with both runes and 8 Warlocks with enhance and embolden in a cheap Serpent.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/08/02 14:35:20
Former moderator 40kOnline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 11:06:05
Subject: Re:Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Wicked Warp Spider
A cave, deep in the Misty Mountains
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Agreed with Wuestenfux.
FD exarchs may be pretty cool on paper, but in games they rarely do more than the average fire dragon
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Craftworld Eleuven 4500
LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
LoneLictor wrote:I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.
Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 23:28:15
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Fixture of Dakka
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I agree all on these points. Mainly:
1. Too much HQ. A farseer (D/G+Stones and RoWarding) ought to do, or just Eldrad.
2. Exarch FD needs a demotion.
One point not brought up:
With the points freed up by tossing an HQ, get another Troop. General rule of thumb: a troop choice per 500 points, and you're gonna need the 3rd in a tourney.
I could see the two characters at 2k+, but not 1500.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 01:03:13
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Zain60 wrote:A few things. Eldrad can't go into the Wave Serpent with the DA's unless he's alone as an IC. The Retinue of warlocks make him a squad and thus he can't join units.
Harlequins are too hopped up, get rid of the troupe master (too many points for an upgrade of 1 attack and a PW) and the DJ who really isn't needed. Just take a squad with a shadowseer and all kisses and pistols.
Fire dragons don't need to be in a Falcon made for long distance killing. That's just... weird. Get them a serpent. DA's are better suited to being in a falcon. Also, both Fuegan and an exarch with a firepike are OVERKILL. just use 5 and fuegan, or 5 with exarch, or just 6 normal ones. They'll kill just about anything.
Obviously you'll need to decide what to do with the warlocks because your plan for them is illegal.
Semi correct, Eldrad or a Farseer with warlocks is never a retinue, but you are correct that DA + Eldrad + Warlocks can't go in the serpent. Drop the 3 man locks, it's a pointless unit that won't achieve any role.
Overall you are overspending on just about every unit in the list, which leads me to believe you are short on models and stretching for points. If this is the case nothing will really fix it but shelling out a few more bucks lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 13:24:57
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Wicked Warp Spider
A cave, deep in the Misty Mountains
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BlueDagger wrote:If this is the case nothing will really fix it but shelling out a few more bucks lol.
Alas. Isn't it always money that's missing?
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Craftworld Eleuven 4500
LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
LoneLictor wrote:I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.
Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 15:56:16
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Money missing? If you want to play 40k? Maybe you should look for another game to play.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 17:00:16
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Storming Storm Guardian
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wuestenfux wrote:Money missing? If you want to play 40k? Maybe you should look for another game to play. 
sad but true
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 12:54:46
Subject: Re:Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Wicked Warp Spider
A cave, deep in the Misty Mountains
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True, but most people have so many unpainted models that by the time they get through them all, they can buy more models.
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Craftworld Eleuven 4500
LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
LoneLictor wrote:I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.
Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 13:23:44
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Screaming Shining Spear
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I completely agree with all the previous posters, except I'm not sold on one idea fully.
Definately:
No Fuegan, no FD Exarch, 10-man Avengers, Harlies need trimmed heavily, Eldrad brought to a regular Farseer.
With those savings, I'd shoot for another DA squad with Serpent for more scoring opportunity.
As for the 'OMG 3 Locks are useless', I do not agree with this. Falcon transporting them around to deal with units they excel at killing is plenty useful IMO.
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Farseer Faenyin
7,100 pts Yme-Loc Eldar(Apoc Included) / 5,700 pts (Non-Apoc)
Record for 6th Edition- Eldar: 25-4-2
Record for 7th Edition -
Eldar: 0-0-0 (Yes, I feel it is that bad)
Battlefleet Gothic: 2,750 pts of Craftworld Eldar
X-wing(Focusing on Imperials): CR90, 6 TIE Fighters, 4 TIE Interceptors, TIE Bomber, TIE Advanced, 4 X-wings, 3 A-wings, 3 B-wings, Y-wing, Z-95
Battletech: Battlion and Command Lance of 3025 Mechs(painted as 21st Rim Worlds) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/04 13:32:14
Subject: Eldar 1500 Point Tournament List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Farseer Faenyin wrote:I completely agree with all the previous posters, except I'm not sold on one idea fully.
Definately:
No Fuegan, no FD Exarch, 10-man Avengers, Harlies need trimmed heavily, Eldrad brought to a regular Farseer.
With those savings, I'd shoot for another DA squad with Serpent for more scoring opportunity.
As for the 'OMG 3 Locks are useless', I do not agree with this. Falcon transporting them around to deal with units they excel at killing is plenty useful IMO.
This is not 4th edition, a falcon should never be in range of an enemy threat unless it's with DA for scoring purposes. Eldrad with 3 locks would be good at killing a vehicle, but at 318pts there is a lot better options out there. 3 Warlocks aren't worth their space as a melee unit since they won't have the # of attacks to take most things down.
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