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I'm playing in my first tournament ever at my FLGS and I was considering using this list. Do you think this list will do well and what armies do you think it will struggle against? I will probably see CSM, Marines, Guard, Tyranids, Orks, and Daemons. C&C greatly appreciated

HQ:
Mad Doc Grotsnik 160pts

Warboss 110pts
w/ PK
w/ Cybork Body
w/ Attack Squig

Troops:
20 Boyz 160pts
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ Bosspole

20 Boyz 160pts
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ Bosspole

20 'ard Boyz 200pts

19x Gretchin 67pts
w/ Runtherd

Fast Attack:
Deffkopta 70pts
w/ TL Rokkits
w/ Buzzsaw

Deffkopta 70pts
w/ TL Rokkits
w/ Buzzsaw

997pts

Nothing? C'mon guys, this list can't be that great. At least say it looks good, don't just say nothing.

I would go shootas if you aren't already and I would drop the Koptas for 5 man Loota squads

Got Shootas. Why Lootas?

Judging by they way your Koptas are equipped I would assume your gunna scout rush them. If so they are gunna be alone and by themselves while optimally they will take down on vehicle a piece which is great. Your opponent will use his Assault units or anything that not gunna be used to lower the size of your mobs marching across the field to bring your Koptas down. If you use Lootas you can take out his transports and he's gunna have to dedicate some of his longer range firepower to take them out which take pressure off your boyz or he ignores them and you just keep right on blasting away with 5 to 15 str 7 shots. Either way it's win/win and not just throwing two units away.

You have boys walking across the board. Any tank heavy army will take you out hard. You will assault the tank and kill it. Then just be mowed down with what's inside. Get a squad of Lootas to pop open those vehicles before you get there.

Drop the koptas and the ard boyz upgrade, ard boys still won't make it up the board. Only use them if in a battlewagon. That will free up enough points to drop in a large squad of lootas. Park them in cover and pick targets smart.

I would also drop the Doc and add another squad of 20 boyz. you'll get more out of them than the doc will do for you.

I've done well using the Mad Dok to the fullest. I usually don't use him in less than 1500 pts but I take 30 cybork sluggas and attach the mad dok to them. I then put my other boys behind the cyborks and everything rushes forward. It will swamp a lot of lists.

Now that I think about it, maybe its not such a bad idea to use in 100pts. 30 cyborks with the dok are 530pts. Granted its half your army buts its also 30 boys with a 5++ and FNP. I'm not sure that there area lot of armies that could handle that in 100pts. It also helps you in KP missions.

Mad dok 160
30 cyborks 370
15 grots, rh 55pts
1 kopta, t/l rokkits, buzzsaw, cybork 75pts
20 shootas, 2 bs, nob with pk and bp - 170
20 shootas, 2 bs, nob with pk and bp - 170
total of 1000

This gives you 70 boys on the ground (30 with 5++ and FNP). That's more boys than your list. 1 less kopta. Almost same amount of grots. And you sacrifice your warboss. You can give you shoota boys a 4+ save for being behind the cyborks.

Even if you don't want to go this route but you still want to take the Dok - I highly recommend that you take cyborks instead of ard boys. Its only 1 pt more to get a 5++. Yes your basic save is 1 less but you have FNP to make up for that.

Don't forget to add cybork to your kotpa(s)! For only 5 pts it give you a chance to stay alive another turn. Even if it means another squad has to shoot at it - its saving shots on the rest of your units.

Vrakk that looks like a good list! Tough as nails boyz with the Mad Dok. So long as he doesn't chase a transport around all game they should do well.
Claypool you dont seem to be getting the most out of the Dok. I would swap him for a Bikerboss and then drop the armor from the ard boyz and give the second Boss a bike too.
Now you have a good list with 4 reliable long range AV hitters who can tie up squads (2 Bosses, 2 Koptas) 60boys and 20 objective holders (which may be a tad too many)

GL

ok first off there's no such thing as a tank heavy army in a 1000 point game and while am not a big fan of 'Ard Boyz I can see how a +4 armour save backed up with a +4 up FNP roll screening the rest of your boyz can get you across the board. The strategy is solid IMO.

@Vrakk
I like that list a lot, however, I'm wary of trading a Warboss and a Deffkopta for more survivability in my screening unit.

I'll definitely look into cybork bodies for my Orks. I'm not sold on it for the Koptas though...

Claypool wrote:@Vrakk
I like that list a lot, however, I'm wary of trading a Warboss and a Deffkopta for more survivability in my screening unit.

I'll definitely look into cybork bodies for my Orks. I'm not sold on it for the Koptas though...

I understand your wariness. I wouldn't use the Dok in this low of a pt game. However, if I'm going to pay alot of points for a SC then I'm going to get the most out of him.

Any army w/ Rhinos and you're dead is what I was referring too.