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This will be my first Doubles tourney and my partner is a very experienced Ultramarine player who uses lots of las, LR crusader, 2 Company commanders, sternguard


here is what i thought up:1250 Pts - Chaos Marines Roster

1 Daemon Prince @ 175 pts (Wings; Mark of Nurgle; Warptime x1)

1 Daemon Prince @ 175 pts (Wings; Mark of Nurgle; Warptime x1)

8 Plague Marines @ 279 pts (Meltagun x2; Rhino)
Plague Champion (Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Twin Linked Bolter)

8 Plague Marines @ 279 pts (Meltagun x2; Rhino)
Plague Champion (Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Twin Linked Bolter)

2 Obliterators @ 150 pts

2 Obliterators @ 150 pts



Total Roster Cost: 1208

i got 42 more pts, where to spend it?

this list any good? he has way more troops than I

Well, I think your plague marine squads are pretty well outfitted.

There's very few things you can do with just the 42 points you have left over. Probably the easiest decision would be to add Personal Icons to the Plague Marine Squads, so the Oblits can deep strike on them.

Since you're so outnumbered troop wise, maybe dropping x1 Obliterator (making that one squad of x3) thus freeing up 117 points

You could then use that 117 points to get two icons on the squads, and 8 lesser daemons to summon in to help as well.

It's the quickest little boost of help I can think of without changing or droppping much, and sticking to the nurgle theme

Well remember this is a doubles tourney and my ultramarine partner is combar squading 4 squads pleanty of scoring!

Koski wrote:There's very few things you can do with just the 42 points you have left over. Probably the easiest decision would be to add Personal Icons to the Plague Marine Squads, so the Oblits can deep strike on them.

Why DS the Oblits? They have guns with enough range to start the hurt on Turn 1.

My suggestion would be EA for the rhinos, to get to the objectives. This would gobble up a lot of 42 points. Oh, blades too. Done.

good point, Thats 40 points!

it would work well with the "super stand and shoot look at my i got alot of lascannons and scoring units and orbital bombards im ultramarines" player im going with.

I'm just used to people liking the deep strike on oblits, just to land them in the wrong place (opponents POV) at just the right time. It's their plasma cannons and TL guns that I enjoy the most. A single lascannon pop each round from that expensive of model seems lame.

They are just really cool, super versatile units. I want to whip out a little squad of my own sometime and see how they work out.

Once again with just 40 points left. With your list your just going to spread them at random on rhino upgrades probably.

Either drop a few points for another tank/unit, or just give extra armor all around (rhinos) and maybe combi-meltas on the plague champs?

Koski wrote:I'm just used to people liking the deep strike on oblits, just to land them in the wrong place (opponents POV) at just the right time. It's their plasma cannons and TL guns that I enjoy the most. A single lascannon pop each round from that expensive of model seems lame.

I agree there. Recent game had 4 oblits missing and failing with LasCans to pen WaveSerpents for 3 full Turns, before one managed a Stun.

Still, the anti-I plasCan, as you cited and other guns allow for versatility.

Koski wrote:They are just really cool, super versatile units.

Oh, you already said that.

For veratility an icon in each squad and extra armor then!!!

Hmm... what about replacing the PM's with normal CSM? Leaving room for more HS maybe?

Looks fine for doubles
As long as he uses a lot of infantry, you should be fine. Everything you have showcases what vanilaa marines are missing, so it should be fun

Sup, I'm Matt, Alex's partner for the tournament. My list is:

Ultramarines 1,250

HQ: Cato Sicarius 200pt

Troops: Tactical Squad of 10 w/ a Power Sword, Plasma Pistol, Melta Gun, and Missile Launcher 190pt

Troops: Tactical Squad of 10 w/ a Powerfist, Lascannon, and a Plasma Gun 215pt

Transport: Razorback w/ Lascannon and Twin-Linked Plasma Gun 75pt

Elites: Ven. Dreadnought w/ an Assault Cannon and Extra Armor 190pt

Elites: Sternguard Squad of 5 w/ Meltabombs 130pt

Heavy Support: Land Raider Crusader w/ Extra Armor and MultiMelta 275pt

Total = 1,250pts

Dred? and they're combatsquading right? the tacs?

IronfrontAlex wrote:Dred? and they're combatsquading right? the tacs?

Despite what people always say, the Venerable Dreadnought has always done it's job, and earned it's points back. Not once has it failed to do something.

And the Tactical Squads will combat squad in Objective based games only. If it's Kill-Points, I'm not going to offer up additional ones. Now, if I know the store(And I do), it'll be a mix of objective and Kill-Points, meaning I'll probably Combat Squad one or two.

Awesome! I agree with samus then and I'll field everything C:SM does not have; so PM's and DP's it is! now to figure out if it'll be 4 oblits or 2 defilers!

tho maybe defilers for anti horde since you can give 1 tac squad tank hunters!


I wonder who we would go up against

I liked the list in your original post - think it compliments SM nicely

Agree with how to spend your remaining points above

Having blades on rhinos with icon and Lessers DSing in is great combo - lessers can charge the turn they DS in so move 12, DS in Lessers (hopefully) dismount roops 2, rapid fire, charge.

2 nurgle princes with wings is always going to be evil.

I would run lessersbut i dont really have the points.