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2010/08/06 12:57:23
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Long story short, love the 40k books, getting into fantasy with dark elves, what are some good books (preferably featuring them but doesnt have to) 
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 Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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2010/08/06 13:08:05
Subject: Re:Good Fantasy books?
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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http://www.blacklibrary.com/Warhammer/Malus-Darkblade
ideal for you I'd suggest 
I'd also strongly recommend http://www.blacklibrary.com/Time-of-Legends/Malekith.html
and the follow up books to that.
Non dark elf related titles I'd suggest would be the Felix and Gotrek series, the Blackhearts omnibus and the Brunenr omnibus.
Most recently I was very impressed with http://www.blacklibrary.com/Warhammer/Warhammer-heroes/Sword-of-Justice.html
I believe they're currently OOP but both the "...in Marienburg" novels were superb too.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2010/08/06 13:16:24
Subject: Re:Good Fantasy books?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Cool thx, will defiantly get Darkblade and Malekith, Brunenr looks good to.
Bloodborne also caught my eye do you know if thats any good?
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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2010/08/06 13:19:45
Subject: Re:Good Fantasy books?
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Yes, I think it's very very good indeed.
The character originally appeared in the Felix and Gotrek book, but you can read the series without having read those.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2010/08/06 14:56:26
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Is there a really good wood elf based book somewhere? Someone recommended it to me, and I forgot the title... they said it was the best warhammer-related book they'd read!
If I said that, I'd be biased, but I don't think they played woodies...
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2010/08/06 15:26:05
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Knight Exemplar
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Only wood elf book i know is 'Guardians of the forest'
I heard it is worth the read but not fantastic.
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Warmachine: Menoth/Cygnar/Mercenaries
40k: Tyranids! 
Fantasy: Dark elves 
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2010/08/06 15:27:32
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
Alexandria, VA
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The ones I read (And loved) were
Blackhearts
Bloodborn
Gotrek and Felix
Malus Darkblade
All pretty good, and Gotrek n' Felix seems to be the flagship characters for Fantasy Black Library, and also the books that got me into Warhammer. Family bought me the 2 first Omnibus' as a gift, and I liked em' enough to start playing this most expensive of hobbies.
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2010/08/06 16:56:44
Subject: Re:Good Fantasy books?
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Mad Gyrocopter Pilot
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Brunner the Bounty Hunter. By C.L. Werner is a book I'm currently reading. Really well written and varied in the action and great plot.
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2010/08/06 17:41:56
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I like the Vampire Wars omnibus, Gortrek and Felix is good, I really like the Ambasador Chronicles and I also like Heldenhammer (the story of Sigmar) and Oathbreaker.
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2010/08/06 21:59:37
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Seon wrote:Only wood elf book i know is 'Guardians of the forest'
I heard it is worth the read but not fantastic.
I read it. As said, not a bad book but it isn't something you'll find particularly amazing.
Haddi wrote:The ones I read (And loved) were
Blackhearts
Bloodborn
Gotrek and Felix
Malus Darkblade
All pretty good, and Gotrek n' Felix seems to be the flagship characters for Fantasy Black Library, and also the books that got me into Warhammer. Family bought me the 2 first Omnibus' as a gift, and I liked em' enough to start playing this most expensive of hobbies.
I only read the first G&F Omnibus, but could suggest that series at least.
Blackhearts, definitely suggest. Probably not much better than GotF, but I found it great none the less.
Malus Darkblade, only read two books (first and Lord of Ruin), but they were still good books. Give a nice look at the Dark Elves and their realms, too.
Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:I like the Vampire Wars omnibus, Gortrek and Felix is good, I really like the Ambasador Chronicles and I also like Heldenhammer (the story of Sigmar) and Oathbreaker.
I didn't like Heldenhammer, but Ambassador Chronicles easily falls in the same spot as Guardians of the Forest. Need to pick up Vampire Wars, as everyone I've talked to suggested that.
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2010/08/06 22:24:41
Subject: Re:Good Fantasy books?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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reds8n wrote: Non dark elf related titles I'd suggest would be the Felix and Gotrek series, the Blackhearts omnibus and the Brunenr omnibus.
You forgot that Elvenslayer IS Dark Elf related, half of it taking place on a Black Arc. So it's a good read after Darkblade and Malekith.
Guardians of the Forest is nice read for Wood Elf fans. Describes their world in detail. Fantastic characterisation of War Dancers !
Also have a look at 2nd edition Warhammer RPG sourcebooks, which are full of background material. Personal favorite is "Children of the Horned Rat".
Personally, I got a deep understanding of the Warhammer World by playing Warhammer Online, as you WALK through and INTERACT with the Warhammer world, see villages and war camps of many fractions and solve specific RPG tasks there. If I play White Lions or Elysian Reavers, I know exactly how their home country looks, because I VISITED it! Too bad that the online concept art gallery seems to be offline now, was a good introduction to the world and the game.
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2010/08/06 22:37:16
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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I enjoyed Reiksguard quite a bit. First book i've read in a long time.
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2010/08/07 02:02:31
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Wow, cool to see so many people have read the wood elf one. For some reason, I thought there was another... but I will definitely check this one out!
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2010/08/07 05:00:10
Subject: Re:Good Fantasy books?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!
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Mathias Thulmann: Witch Hunter (the omnibus) is an excellent read, it delves deep into the ideas of Witch Hunters and expands the fluff of the Empire. Anyone know if the "Empire Army" books are any good (Iron Company, Reiksguard, Grimblades, and Call to Arms)?
I'd recommend Gotrek and Felix to anybody, though IMHO, the first six by William King were the best. If you like Skaven, and Grey Seer Thanquol, then you should try Grey Seer.
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 Atma01 wrote:
And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!
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2010/08/19 17:53:33
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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How many short story omnibuses are there for Fantasy? I have "Tales of the Old World" and love it, but I'm pretty sure there are more.
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2010/08/21 21:35:18
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!
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Balog wrote:How many short story omnibuses are there for Fantasy? I have "Tales of the Old World" and love it, but I'm pretty sure there are more.
Dunno if it counts, but the first Gotrek & Felix (Trollslayer) is a bunch of short storied involving Gotrek and Felix, it's only in the second novel that there is a single plot throughout the whole book.
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Atma01 wrote:
And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!
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2010/08/22 00:09:05
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Abhorrent Grotesque Aberration
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2010/08/22 00:26:12
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Sneaky Kommando
Hemet california
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the darkblade books are a good quick read. Other than that I have mainly read the 40k stuff.
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Diplomacy is the act of saying good doggie until you can find a big enough gun!!!
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2010/08/22 07:42:46
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Stubborn Hammerer
Weston-super-mare
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The malus darkblade books are my favourite, its got a good story and lots of action and hes just so cool/unpredictable and crazy.
Gotrek and felix is really good aswell but as your doing dark elves i would start with malus as it may give you an idea to theme an army on or which special character you want.
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2010/08/22 10:21:27
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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I've read a handful of books and enjoyed them all. I just finised Nagash the Sorcerer. I really liked the battle sequences in that one. The auther put a lot of time into making sure they were done right.
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2010/08/22 10:32:53
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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I've read the Lords Of Valour short story collection, that was good. I found the Konrad trilogy quite good too. (Konrad, I forgot the name of the middle one, Warblade)
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2010/08/24 10:24:53
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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Have just started Masters of Magic
This is my first BL book and possibly my last and will need some wizardry to get me to the end of the first chapter.
Are all BL so badly written?
(Sorry this is not intended as a flame just that my literary sensiblilities have been bludgeoned. If other people read and enjoy then am fine with that)
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2010/08/24 15:54:40
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Partly it's that a lot of work needs to be churned out in a short span of time, partly it's that the intended audience is not that literate or sophisticated, partly I do think it's that some of the writers just aren't that great.
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2010/08/24 17:33:26
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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Have read a bit more and is better.
Can see the appeal with the tie-in to the fluff and tabletop action Automatically Appended Next Post: and have broken through to finish the chapter 
will probably finish the book now.
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2010/08/25 03:07:30
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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I've found them hit and miss. Though I don't play 40k anymore, I found the first few Horus Heresy books quite entertaining.
I've also found some Black Library stuff just grind on and on painfully long with not much variety/creativity. Of course, I found this to be true with much fantasy fiction.
I did enjoy Oathbreaker and Grudgebearer. It helps if you're already a fan of a particular race/niche in the background.
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2010/08/25 08:56:20
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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The Malus Darkblade series was a great read.
I warn you now, do NOT read Gotrek and Felix. Why? Because it's good. At first. You'll like it, and then you'll continually want to read it, and after the third book it all goes downhill from there.
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2010/08/25 21:52:14
Subject: Re:Good Fantasy books?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!
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How so, Cryonicleech? I'm not arguing, I am genuinely curious about in what way it goes downhill?
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Atma01 wrote:
And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!
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2010/08/25 22:10:46
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Stubborn Hammerer
Weston-super-mare
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I really enjoyed the elfslayer book from gotrek and felix series i dont think they go downhill as such.
RZ are those dwarf books(Oathbreaker and Grudgebearer) that good because im thinking about buying a couple new books for when i finish mine?
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2010/08/28 11:46:46
Subject: Good Fantasy books?
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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Just finished "Masters of Magic" by Chris Wraight despite my initial problems.
After what seemed to me a clunky opening I was able to get into the book.
It depicts a vast horde of Greenskins led by an ubershaman and the adventures of an acolyte grey wizard. The infighting and beaurocracy add sub plots to the narrative, as the Empire responds to prevent the Orcs reaching Altdorf.
Apart from some modern phrases that I personally find irksome, and the ineveviatable cliches, I enjoyed the read.
If you like magic in your Empire Army I would recommend the book. To be fair, would recommend it if you like the WHFB in general, as it will entertain without taxing the brain. Something I need right now, so it did a good job.
Have just got The Daemon's Curse which cost me 30p as a library discard.
So even if it a load of gakk laced gubbins I shalln't worry.
Somehow I don't think I will be liking Darkus Malblade too much 
I notice it is co-written which doesn't inspire confidence, but the above comments reassure.
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