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i have obtained some orks and here is the army list im looking for sugestions suggesting models to buy is allowed but not incouraged instead try to explain different equipment or konfigurations for the orks

HQ:gitsmasha
PK eavyarmour cybork body kombi shoota rokkit launcha
105

roargutz
KFF PK
110

elites:gitsmasha ladz
10 nobz no upgradez
200

roargutz ladz
6 nobz no upgradez
120

lootas
4 deffgunz 1 kustom mega blasta
75

troopz:20 choppa boyz
2 big shootas
130

20 choppa boyz
2 big shootas
130

20 choppa boyz
2 big shootas
130

fast attack: 3 koptas
twin linked rokkits
135

5 stormboyz
choppa slugga one nob
70

3 bikas
choppaz
75

eavy support: deff dread(troop choice do to big mek)
4 dread closekombi weapons grot riggerz
110

deff dread
4 dread closekombi weapons grot riggerz
110

exactally 1500

No.

Just No.

First of all going upwards, Fast Attack, its fast but I see no Attack. Stormboyz are very expensive Ork boyz, and like Boyz need large numbers to be usable, unlike boyz they're not a bargain price and cost too much to swarm with for non-scoring ork unit. Ditto Bikers, though they're less crap usable in large numbers and/or Wazdakka is in the army. Drop both and run the deffkoptas as three units of 1, unless you want to take quite a few more.

Troops:
Boyz always, always, have a Nob with a PK. The boyz, especially slugga boyz, are a delivery system for the 4/3 S9/8 attacks that pulverize everything. Also why pay for Big Shootas in units that should be running every turn except for the turn they assault an enemy?

Shoota boyz are better overall, but its easier to buy AoBR slugga boyz, some people convert the guns, but that does require.... patience I guess.

Elites:
Lootas have Deffguns, the Mek boy in the box is a waste of plastic. KMB is horrible to give ork infantry as you're firing a weapon that has almost the same odds of hitting as it does killing the user. Deffguns are pretty much autocannons with that Orkish random-chance-cum-charm. A whole squad of Autocannons, pretty much you want to make this unit BIG.

Nobs: Drop one of the units, preferably the big one and buy PKs for the smaller. Nobs are fine at base gear, but once you start pimping them out, or going as far as Complex, you can never actually justify the idea of not taking them all blinged out. Go the whole way and make them complex biker nobs, play a few games and then try using them again naked. Also get a Waaagh! Banner for the ones the Boss accompanies, it makes him WS6 which maximises his hitting power against melee specialists that have WS5.

HQ:
Big Mek: KFF, Cybork. Really thats all you want on him. KFF is all you need, but without transport he needs the 5++. PK is a waste of time, being an IC he can be picked out and the PK will therefore never get used as everyone their dog/squig/gaunt hits first. At a stretch maybe a Burna if he's with a burna wagon.

Warboss: Bosspole, if you want his bodyguards to hold on in combat. Not essential like the PK, but well worth it, the attack squig just makes him that much more an donkey-cave to everything. Put him in complex nobs and vola, you're breaking everything short of Captain Lysander-pantsface McNotDie.

Dude are you HIGH??


16 Nobz and NO upgrades thats like putting spinners on a smart car its slowed.

I can Understand all of your fluffy names, but on here we don't need them.

GO back to the drawing board! What kind of list do you want Wagon rush, shooty, kan wall, or green tide???

plaugerat wrote:

HQ:gitsmasha
PK eavyarmour cybork body kombi shoota rokkit launcha
105

rokkit launcha is horrible, if anything i would go with a combi skorcha if anything. good equipment is PK, EA, Cybork at min.

roargutz
KFF PK
110

drop PK, EA and cybork comes first

elites:gitsmasha ladz
10 nobz no upgradez
200

no no no. these need a delivery system and some PK's at least 2. if your looking for cheaper hitting power.

roargutz ladz
6 nobz no upgradez
120

just drop these for god sakes.

lootas
4 deffgunz 1 kustom mega blasta
75

drop the KMB, get more lootas here, one panic test and these guys are gone.

troopz:20 choppa boyz
2 big shootas
130

drop the shootas, max the unit out, get a PK nob. choppa boyz are running if they arnt charging.

20 choppa boyz
2 big shootas
130

see above

20 choppa boyz
2 big shootas
130

and again

fast attack: 3 koptas
twin linked rokkits
135

ok, i can agree here at some measure

5 stormboyz
choppa slugga one nob
70

nob needs a PK, good as a nob delivery system on a flank

3 bikas
choppaz
75

waste of points IMO, needs to be a few more bikes or throw the warboss in here on a bike, needs a PK on a nob, seeing a pattern?

eavy support: deff dread(troop choice do to big mek)
4 dread closekombi weapons grot riggerz
110

ok


deff dread
4 dread closekombi weapons grot riggerz
110

ok


exactally 1500

you are all over the place, lots of min maxing that does not work with orks, you need the horde and you need lots of it. i have seen elite orks work a few times but you need to be very skills with the greens to make it a success.

going along your lines, here is a general ork list at 1500 points:

Warboss, PK, EA and Cybork
Mek, KFF, EA, Cybork, PK

30 boyz, PK nob with pole
30 boyz, PK nob with pole
30 boyz, PK nob with pole

15 lootas

10 stormboyz with PK nob with pole

dred, 4 ccw, plates
dred, 4 ccw, plates

i personally like shootas over sluggas, and kans over dreds, but thats just me.

gitsmasha:
eavy, cybork, pk, shoota skorcha, bosspole
110
mek kff burna, eavy
110(playtested burna it was worth it)

nobz
waggh banner 2 pk's
265

lootas
all deffgunz
75

boyz 170slugga choppa nob pk bosspole2bigshoota

boyz 170slugga choppa nob pk bosspole2bigshoota

boyz 170slugga choppa nob pk 2bigshoota bosspole

deffkoptas twinrokkits135

deffdread 4 close kombis riggers armour110

deffdread 4 close kombis riggers armour110

tankbustas 2 tankhammas75





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I'd recommend dropping the tankbustas unless you play against a lot of mechanical armies. Use the points to increase your lootas to 10 models. And forget about the big shootas with your slugga boyz, they should be running every turn until you close with the enemy.

nice yes i play at a IG SM dominant shop lots of tanks


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plaugerat wrote:gitsmasha:
eavy, cybork, pk, shoota skorcha, bosspole
110
mek kff burna, eavy
110(playtested burna it was worth it)

nobz
waggh banner 4 pk's
315

lootas
all deffgunz
75

boyz 160slugga choppa nob pk bosspole

boyz 160slugga choppa nob pk bosspole

boyz 160slugga choppa nob pk bosspole

deffkoptas twinrokkits135

deffdread 4 close kombis riggers armour110

deffdread 4 close kombis riggers armour110

tankbustas 2 tankhammas75





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plaugerat wrote:nice yes i play at a IG SM dominant shop lots of tanks

Yes, I know what that's like. Might want to give your nobz a trukk then, so they can get in faster and rip those tanks apart. Drop a PK or two, and you will have the points needed.

plaugerat wrote:gitsmasha:
eavy, cybork, pk, shoota skorcha, bosspole
110
mek kff burna, eavy
110(playtested burna it was worth it)

nobz
waggh banner 4 pk's
315

lootas
all deffgunz
75

boyz 160slugga choppa nob pk bosspole

boyz 160slugga choppa nob pk bosspole

boyz 160slugga choppa nob pk bosspole

deffkoptas twinrokkits135

deffdread 4 close kombis riggers armour110

deffdread 4 close kombis riggers armour110

tankbustas 2 tankhammas75

FINAL ARMY LIST (at least until tomorrow)

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trukks die very quick ive played with one and only having one attracts fire from the tanks

awesome game went against blood angels and ultra marines killed both armies out right with the majority of my orks left alive