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Just happened upon this while cruising the interwebs. . . thought it was a joke until I looked it up and realized that people actually believe this stuff.

http://jonathanturley.org/2010/08/01/australian-public-schools-teaching-humans-and-dinosaurs-co-existed/

Australia is facing a controversy that is all too familiar to Americans. Fundamentalists in state schools are teaching children that humans and dinosaurs lived together and Noah brought dinosaur eggs on to the Ark.


Children are also taught that Adam and Eve were not eaten by dinosaurs “because they were under a protective spell.”

This is consistent with Palintology — the new science advanced by Sarah Palin — which insists that man and dinosaur must have co-existed despite carbon dating and simple logic.

Yeah, I used to be a teacher and I still know a bunch of people who are, and I'm pretty sure that's not true. There might be some funky independent schools that are allowed to teach thier students garbage like that, but if they want state or federal funding then they are obliged to teach a certain curriculum.

For the most part this curriculum does not include any sort of religious education and if it does, its not that hokey garbage!

That's not too say humans and dinosaurs don't co exist...what about the Loch Ness Monster?

Or big foot?

Or that fat chick that used to be on the view...?

I'd love to see his reference or sources... sounds like tripe to me. Back when I was in primary school we'd have 'scripture' classes and most of us got notes from our parents so we didn't have to do it.

I mean, I'm sure there are fundies everywhere and some of them work in schools - I finished school in a non-denominational Christian institution - but we had none of that.

Jihadnik wrote:
That's not too say humans and dinosaurs don't co exist...what about the Loch Ness Monster?

well I can't dispute that.

Palintology?

I'll take several.

Seriously though, when did Alaskan-Crazy Woman become a movement now?

Australia is facing a controversy that is all too familiar to Americans. Fundamentalists in state schools are teaching children that humans and dinosaurs lived together and Noah brought dinosaur eggs on to the Ark.


Children are also taught that Adam and Eve were not eaten by dinosaurs “because they were under a protective spell.”

That is so much cooler than the "evolution" story.

I'm now officially converting to Creationism.

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Australia is facing a controversy that is all too familiar to Americans. Fundamentalists in state schools are teaching children that humans and dinosaurs lived together and Noah brought dinosaur eggs on to the Ark.


Children are also taught that Adam and Eve were not eaten by dinosaurs “because they were under a protective spell.”

That is so much cooler than the "evolution" story.

I'm now officially converting to Creationism.

I agree. this is alot simplier to remeber. if i have a test all i have to do is say "god did it"
Besiides this look awesome
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Creation_Museum_10.png
But in all serious ness. Carbon dating only is reliable source if the carbon in the atmosphere remained the same throught all of earths years. It only give rough estimsation. Also palin doesnt have commom sense.

You'll only get half marks if you can't back it up with relevant bible readings. You might as well just learn the real stuff.

Why do you allow this woman to continue working in politics?

garret wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Australia is facing a controversy that is all too familiar to Americans. Fundamentalists in state schools are teaching children that humans and dinosaurs lived together and Noah brought dinosaur eggs on to the Ark.


Children are also taught that Adam and Eve were not eaten by dinosaurs “because they were under a protective spell.”

That is so much cooler than the "evolution" story.

I'm now officially converting to Creationism.

I agree. this is alot simplier to remeber. if i have a test all i have to do is say "god did it"
Besiides this look awesome
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Creation_Museum_10.png
But in all serious ness. Carbon dating only is reliable source if the carbon in the atmosphere remained the same throught all of earths years. It only give rough estimsation. Also palin doesnt have commom sense.

Carbon dating's only accurate back about, if I recall correctly, to around 60,000 years BCE (which is still 10x farther back than New Earth creationists believe the world's age to be). Fortunately, there's a whole slew of other radiometric dating techniques out there which not only go much farther back, but also provide useful cross-checks on dating ranges. There's a good intro on wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating#Modern_dating_methods

Carbon levels changing would not impact the vast majority of the other modern methods. Now, a changing value for alpha would cause a problem, but fortunately, there's some very good evidence from the astronomy and astrophysics folks that alpha hasn't changed.

Valete,

JohnS

How would carbon dating depend on the type of carbon not changing please?

Too late and tired to google (sorry for being a lazy git)
I thought it depended on an isotope which was consistent.

or did i misunderstand/forget something? (high probability)

Never having heard this load of crap before today surprises me but doesnt surprise me it came from Palin herself.
The only reason i can come up with WHY she is STILL a politician is because she is controversial and is also famous. Cant quite figure out why the Republican party puts up with stupidity like this out of her but they do and it has me confused.



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Never having heard this load of crap before today surprises me but doesnt surprise me it came from Palin herself.
The only reason i can come up with WHY she is STILL a politician is because she is controversial and is also famous. Cant quite figure out why the Republican party puts up with stupidity like this out of her but they do and it has me confused.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:How would carbon dating depend on the type of carbon not changing please?

Too late and tired to google (sorry for being a lazy git)
I thought it depended on an isotope which was consistent.

or did i misunderstand/forget something? (high probability)

The majority of modern testing no longer uses carbon dating as thier are other more effective means of dating

When did Sarah Palin ever say Dinosaurs and humans co-existed? I can't find it and I don't remember her ever saying that.

Jihadnik wrote:Yeah, I used to be a teacher and I still know a bunch of people who are, and I'm pretty sure that's not true. There might be some funky independent schools that are allowed to teach thier students garbage like that, but if they want state or federal funding then they are obliged to teach a certain curriculum.

For the most part this curriculum does not include any sort of religious education and if it does, its not that hokey garbage!

In Queensland they have scripture classes (for several major religions, and which you are able to opt out of). These classes are taught by 'enthusiastic citizens', basically local religious leaders volunteering their time.

All of that is fine until a group of fundamentalists managed to become teachers in a lot of these classes, and started teaching creationist nonsense.

I can confirm this is true. There's a free period that's optional for students to listen to someone who volunteers and supplies their own curriculum. I know this is the case because my father is an Australian evangelist and he does exactly what this article is saying >.< So yeah, it's real, but they're also spinning it in a weird way.

rubiksnoob wrote:Just happened upon this while cruising the interwebs. . . thought it was a joke until I looked it up and realized that people actually believe this stuff.

http://jonathanturley.org/2010/08/01/australian-public-schools-teaching-humans-and-dinosaurs-co-existed/

Australia is facing a controversy that is all too familiar to Americans. Fundamentalists in state schools are teaching children that humans and dinosaurs lived together and Noah brought dinosaur eggs on to the Ark.


Children are also taught that Adam and Eve were not eaten by dinosaurs “because they were under a protective spell.”

Mage Armor? Nah, for a T-Rex you'd probably want a Wall of Force.

I will say that I haven't heard Sarah Palin endorse the Young Earth movement.

Interestingly, I was at a dinosaur museum in Cabazon, CA the other day and they have the walls there absolutely plastered with information that "destroys" the theory of evolution. If I wasn't on my phone I'd link to it...