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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/10 04:17:27
Subject: Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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GW put out technical drawings (posters) for the Land Raider and the Rhino.
Is there anything like that for the Eldar vehicles?
Names for the greebles and gubbins, etc.?
Official preferred, but in the absence of that, fan art is next best.
For example, all those little bumps all over the outer surface aren't spirit stones, so what are they?
Is there a stated purpose for the large oval blister on the starboard wing?
The sockets in the panel behind the cockpit?
The fluff seems to be changing. The current codex talks about psychoplastics shaped into semi-organic devices -- often controlled psychically.
Doesn't fit with the pilot's over-the-shoulder targeter or heads up display in all the falcon cockpits -- no need for visual displays if the pilot is psychically connected to the vehicle.
I get the impression that the Eldar don't use metals or even electronics. So?
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10k pts Eldar (no jetbikes -- how is that possible?)
2k pts 3rd edition Wolves (no werewolves or clifford cavalry -- but I do have a nifty Leman Russ Exterminator shaped paperweight)
3k pts chaos marines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/10 04:21:35
Subject: Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Whether it's a psychic connection or a direct neural interface, or electro-mechanical control a visual display is going to come in handy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/10 04:29:27
Subject: Re:Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Whether it's a psychic connection or a direct neural interface, or electro-mechanical control a visual display is going to come in handy.
For keeping track of stuff?
I'm thinking that if there was "visual" information, why have it out in front of the face, going through the eyes and up the optic nerve? Wouldn't it be more efficient (and faster) for the "visual" information to pipe directly into the cortex? Would also allow for a more three-dimensional presentation, not to mention making use of other senses to convey more information. Basic five of course, but probably even more exotic signals.
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10k pts Eldar (no jetbikes -- how is that possible?)
2k pts 3rd edition Wolves (no werewolves or clifford cavalry -- but I do have a nifty Leman Russ Exterminator shaped paperweight)
3k pts chaos marines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/10 10:41:15
Subject: Re:Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I imagine it would be safer for the pilot. I know I wouldn't want a machine wired directly into my brain if it was likely to get hit by haywire grenades.
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"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/11 01:32:15
Subject: Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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anyone know where to find more technical information about the Eldar vehicles?
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10k pts Eldar (no jetbikes -- how is that possible?)
2k pts 3rd edition Wolves (no werewolves or clifford cavalry -- but I do have a nifty Leman Russ Exterminator shaped paperweight)
3k pts chaos marines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/11 22:57:01
Subject: Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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there is an old imperial Armour book that has
Eldar vehicles
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/12 04:00:30
Subject: Re:Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Thanks
I'll see what I can dig up
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10k pts Eldar (no jetbikes -- how is that possible?)
2k pts 3rd edition Wolves (no werewolves or clifford cavalry -- but I do have a nifty Leman Russ Exterminator shaped paperweight)
3k pts chaos marines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/12 12:05:06
Subject: Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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SpacePanzee wrote: GW put out technical drawings (posters) for the Land Raider and the Rhino. The fluff seems to be changing. The current codex talks about psychoplastics shaped into semi-organic devices -- often controlled psychically. Doesn't fit with the pilot's over-the-shoulder targeter or heads up display in all the falcon cockpits -- no need for visual displays if the pilot is psychically connected to the vehicle. I get the impression that the Eldar don't use metals or even electronics. So? The eldar build the HULLS from wraithbone and ADD to it with other devices. Not everything is built from wraithbone. The link between pilot and machine is not an complete link like the mind-impulse link of a titan pilot or a space marine with his black carapace. The pilot can control the main functions of the craft through the link, but other senses can still be utilised. Given that the eldar routinely practice a psychological compartmentalism (which is part and parcel of the disassociative state required for the "war mask", it shouldn't be that unusual. Besides, even if an eldar vehicle is psychically responsive to the pilot/rider, it doesn't stop the eldar themself feeling the wind in their hair (for a jetbiker). Gav Thorpe has written much of the fluff regarding the eldar, and has the best continuity regarding it. I'll dig up my old copy of IA2 (NOT VOL2, just IA2, the softcover book released many years before FW discovered the financial joys of hardbacks) and see what it has to say about things. In the old writeup for the falcon/wave serpent and fire prisms it is mentioned that the hulls are blistered up to create spaces for sensors and suchlike. Eldar have been known to use not-wraithbone for things where required. It is ONE material used in construction, not the ONLY one used. It is used for wraith constructs because the nature of the occupant requires the psychically active properties of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/23 22:37:23
Subject: Re:Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Eldar have been known to use not-wraithbone for things where required. It is ONE material used in construction, not the ONLY one used. It is used for wraith constructs because the nature of the occupant requires the psychically active properties of it.
I never said they used wraithbone for everything. Wraithbone is like their adamantium. But -- the other materials they use (at this point) seem to be other (not-wraithbone) psychoplastics. Their vehicles and machines aren't constructed (apparently), but more grown and "shaped" by bonesingers and (perhaps) other specialized craftspeople. Rather than metals, they use psychoplastics -- the fluff I've seen so far mentions psychoplastics as a category, "complex and varied," but wraithbone is the only one I've seen named or described in any detail. For example, their armor is made out of an un-named pyschoplastic that modifies its own ductility based on "thoughtforms" of the wearer (is that purple prose for thoughts or is thoughtform some kind of rune-craft/meditative skill that the Eldar use to communicate with their devices?). The armor also reacts (on its own initiative?) to impact -- either sensing the impact before it happens or reacting in nano-second increments to absorb and distribute the kinetic energy(?).
Their craftworlds are explicitly describes using a "psychic power grid," powered by psychic energy. Without "geeking out" too far, if they use psychic energy for their power grid, then pretty much their entire technology must use psychoenergy in the way we use electromagnetism. I.E., not just for power delivery, but for control signals, logic circuits, and everything else. Instead of circuits built out of transistors, capacitors, resistors, inductors, etc., the Eldar would use psychoenergetic equivalents.
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10k pts Eldar (no jetbikes -- how is that possible?)
2k pts 3rd edition Wolves (no werewolves or clifford cavalry -- but I do have a nifty Leman Russ Exterminator shaped paperweight)
3k pts chaos marines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/18 18:38:56
Subject: Technical Drawings for Falcons or other Eldar Vehicles?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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