Does a ork KFF affect all models under 6 inches (including my opponents)

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**unite all action**

For example does it work on any infantry and vehicle including my enemies, as in the ork book it is quite unclear?

yes a silly question until you know the answer.

**Scott-S6**

The BRB FAQ clarifies this:

Q. Am I able to gain the benefits of any of my
opponent’s wargear or special rules, such as
Teleport Homers, Chaos Icons, Tyranid Synapse,
Necron Resurrection Orbs etc?
A. In most occasions this is clear, as the rules use
the words ‘friendly’ or ‘own’ to indicate your
units, and ‘enemy’ for the opponent’s. On the
other hand, some rules clearly specify that they
affect ‘friend and foe’. A few rules are, however,
slightly ambiguous as they don’t clearly specify
this distinction. As a general principle, we
recommend that you cannot use or gain the
benefits from any of the wargear or special rules
of your opponent’s army, unless specifically
stated in the rule itself (‘friend or foe’) or in an
official FAQ.

**Stubby**

The codex specifically says, "All units within 6 inches" Play it like the codex says.

**Irdiumstern**

I've been playing it as all means all. However, it has yet to come up.

**kill dem stunties**

Only TFG would try to claim a save from your KFF, the BRB faq is very specific that unless specified explicitly (e.g friend or foe), they will never gain the benefit.

**nkelsch**

By default, it only effects your units unless it specifically specifies 'friend or foe'.

Just like how there is a default definition of 'turn' when it is not specific.

**kight**

But the BrB is quit specific when it says unless clarified the ork rule says all units all is all no matter what.

**Gorkamorka**

kight wrote:But the BrB is quit specific when it says unless clarified the ork rule says all units all is all no matter what.

Did you not read the first response?
The BRB faq is quite specific... "you cannot use or gain the benefits from any of the wargear or special rules of your opponent’s army, unless specifically stated in the rule itself "

**insaniak**

kight wrote:But the BrB is quit specific when it says unless clarified the ork rule says all units all is all no matter what.

'All' is about as non-specific as you can possibly get.

What the rulebook FAQ is saying is that the rule has to actually state that it affects enemy units in order for it to do so.

The KFF does not specify that it affects enemy units. It just affects 'all' units. Since 'enemy' is not specified, as per the rulebook FAQ, we therefore read 'all units' to mean 'all Ork units'...

**Kurgash**

Which we come to the point of someone asking 'What about if it's Ork vs Ork!?!??!!' to which we simply go back to step one again and repeat the cycle.

**mattyrm**

That's a hard one, common sense says your opponent could get the save, I mean, how does a force field know the difference between humanoids?

**Bloodhorror**

It'd make sense to...

When it doubt, put things in as realistic terms as possible...

as realistic as you can get with big green guys running around chopping up Robots and space elves....

**nosferatu1001**

Except you dont need to, as the BRB FAQ explains uynder exactly what circumstances you can benefit from an opponents wargear. KFF does not fulfill this requirement, so you do not.

Simples.

**insaniak**

Kurgash wrote:Which we come to the point of someone asking 'What about if it's Ork vs Ork!?!??!!' to which we simply go back to step one again and repeat the cycle.

It makes no difference who your opponent is. Your army's rules only affect your opponent when they specifically say as much.