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Dear Dakka Dakka Readers,

I have been reading on the forums here and other places and it seems that some people think a 1+ save means that they auto save wounds that don't have modifers. I know some people don't think that, I am one of them. I know this might also seem very obvious to many of you, but from what I understand, you always fail an armor save on a roll of a "1."

So, I just want to clarify that a 1+ save still fails it's armor saves on a roll of a 1, thus big nasty units with 1+ saves are not invulnerable to S3 attacks or below that don't have modifers, right?

Respectfully,
DarkAngelHopeful

That is correct. And with modifiers for High Str weapons, 1+ is nice, but 1 always fails.

Try wounding an Engineer on Mechanical Steed. The steed has a "0" save...

The rules for taking armour saves clearly states that a roll of "1" is always a failure, regardless of how good the armour is.

In addition the days of better than 1+ saves are gone, much to the annoyance of my old blood on scar vet with enchanted shields -2+ save....now a save can NEVER be better than a 1+ to begin with.

Thanks for the input. I just wanted to clarify, because I keep seeing people talk about how S3 bows and what not can't kill such and such unit because they have a 1+ save and maybe this will help them understand that they can kill such and such unit with a 1+ save (I love run on sentences).

nosferatu1001 wrote:to the annoyance of my old blood on scar vet

Lords can ride heros as a mount now?

skyth wrote:Lords can ride heros as a mount now?

I'm trying to envision a Greater Daemon Riding atop a Herald....

Jin wrote:

skyth wrote:Lords can ride heros as a mount now?

I'm trying to envision a Greater Daemon Riding atop a Herald....

Talk about braking one's back for his religion

DAmn posting while tired...

Cold one. Cold one. Although old blood riding a scar vet would make interesting WHFB pr0n....

Excuse me whyle i use the power drill to get that image out of my head...

As I was reading that, I thought you were going to finish that sentence with "to make that model."

Well, it would be interesting to make the model....

However now I have suggested it, according to the rules of the internet there are now pictures of old blood on scar vet hot action....

Click here for hot old blood on scar vet action

Lol, I totally missed that when I first read your post, but it cracked me up when I saw it . And the above link is funny... is that guy really the one who sings that song? (Forgive my ignorance)

Just cracked up again thinking about it...

Sigged complete with hyperlink! Nice addition, Synnister

On-topic(ish): I Hate 1+ saves! Not much in my army (or at least, in the units I use from it) ignores armor, and so I'm stuck trying to overcome it through strength armor modifiers... not fun!

Synnister wrote:Click here for hot old blood on scar vet action

Ohohohoho, that's funny pointless spamming....

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Yeah, no higher than 1+ save, and a 1 always fails, regardless of modifiers.