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A friend of mine has been insisting that rolling multiple Vehicle Explodes Results in a single attack (one round of shooting from a single unit or one initiative's worth of attacks). Would result in having to roll multiple explosions, possibly hitting a squad multiple times.

My counter-argument is that since the text of a vehicle removed result removes the vehicle from the board. It would preclude further explosion results. This hasn't come up in a game yet but I thought I'd see if anyone had any thoughts on this or could point me to a section of rules that would clarify this either way.

So is he saying if a vehicle explodes it will explode a few times or will explode again in another turn?
Both cases are wrong if a vehicle explodes it is remover and there for cant explode again (the fule tank catches alight of some thing esle and the vehicle is blown to bit leaving nothing left, so there nothing to blow up again).

He is saying it will explode multiple times in one turn. I am in agreement w/ you in that the first explodes result removes the vehicle.

In a similar matter what if a vehicle receives a explodes and wrecked result at the same time. Which takes precedence? Everyone I've played w/ always plays it so that the exploded result takes precedence but I wasn't able to find if it is written anywhere.

The exploded result happens as well, meaning you have nowhere to disembark from - making wrecked impossible to achieve.

yeah

Around here, we generally just roll the damage rolls one at a time, applying the results sequentially and stopping if and when you roll an explosion.

Not RAW, but saves conflicts.

A friend of mine likes to roll mutliple times for the explosion radius and take the largest if multiple explodes come up. Only one explosion still but will probably be a little bigger.

We do the same thing - if you get multiple explosions the chances of that "nuke" style one goes much higher.

Really, really handy when genestealers are assaulting rhinos....

I'd house rule it as attackers choice if there are multiple explosion distances. We do it as only one explode here in Tampa, though.

We have had this debate locally as well, and came up with the resolution that since if its all fire from one source then all the results are happening at exactly the same time. So this means that all of the results have to be rolled, but a vehicle can only explode one time so only apply the largest blast size.


Sliggoth

I remember asking the same question about a year ago, the general consensus was that you only apply one Explodes result to save headaches

It's not particularly clear from a RAW perspective, but there you go.

RAW have no clear instructions for multiple Explodes! results, however, you can argue that once the vehicle has exploded, it's not going to explode again, and another shot that would make it explode won't make it "explode bigger" or "explode twice."

Since there's no clear RAW for this, I'll just say that I've always played it logically, and that is to say you only apply the first Explodes! result and ignore subsequent results in the same turn.

RAW all firing from one unit(or melee attacks in the same initiative step) is done simultaneously.

This means rolling all the damage results at the same time is technically the correct thing to do.

Again though RAW does not state what to do if you score multiple "Explodes" results. Since it happens at the same time, and you are applying all damage results you will never have a situation where the vehicle explodes, and then explodes again. What you will have is a vehicle that Explodes multiple times at once. Which still doesn't make any sense and we have no way to resolve.

I posit this application(and this is how we Play 'round here): Follow RAW to the best of your ability and roll for all damage results at once; If you score a destroyed or Exploded result(any) apply that result(once) and ignore the rest of the results. If you score a Destroyed and an exploded result apply only the Exploded result(again Once). All other results scored without a destroyed/exploded are of course all applied equally.

Insaniak: applying the results sequentially can(and often will) give you a Destroyed result and then an exploded result, but models in a transport will have already been disembarked so may take a different value hit from the exploded result. And if you stop applying damage results at destroyed then you completely miss out on the chance that one of your penetrating hits(that has not had it's damage applied yet) was an exploded result.

my interpertation is you roll once no matter how many.


what i like to do is this(pretty nice and is explainable)

say you have 3 explodes results.

you roll 3 times for the size of the explosion.

the results are a 2, 4 and a 5.

you pick the highest and apply that explosion result. so a single 5" explosion.

Kommissar Kel wrote:Insaniak: applying the results sequentially can(and often will) give you a Destroyed result and then an exploded result, but models in a transport will have already been disembarked so may take a different value hit from the exploded result.

We don't actually disembark them from the transport until damage rolls are finished, so they still take the damage from being inside the vehicle when it explodes, rather than the damage from being caught outside when it explodes.

And if you stop applying damage results at destroyed then you completely miss out on the chance that one of your penetrating hits(that has not had it's damage applied yet) was an exploded result.

Which is why we stop at exploded instead...

I would roll as many times as it gets explodes, since we could assume that the first shot hit the fuel tank, but before the explosion reached the ammo, that exploded too! and so on.
Just roll seperately for each explosion.

JSK-Fox wrote:I would roll as many times as it gets explodes, since we could assume that the first shot hit the fuel tank, but before the explosion reached the ammo, that exploded too! and so on.
Just roll seperately for each explosion.

While I think that this is a very fluffy way of interpreting how a vehicle would explode in this game, I have to disagree with the way it applies to it. If you're going to say that the vehicle has a few, for what it's worth, "minor" explosions, before a big catastrophic explosion, causing the entire vehicle to explode, then wouldn't the Str of each explosion vary? This is where it could really hairy in the game.

The rule states that once it has exploded, it is removed from the table. And that's it. For the vehicle to explode multiple times, as JSK, cited above, there'd have to be mathematical ways of calculating the degrees of the explosion, and varying their respective Str.

And since there aren't any rules that do that, the easiest way to rule this, without going into much more unneeded confusion, would be to say that the vehicle explodes once, and the range for the explosion is rolled once.

To the OP, your friend, IMHO would be incorrect rolling once for each "Explosion" result he gets on a single Shooting or Assault Attack.