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CCS: 100
vox, MoO, regimental standard

PCS1: 90
vox, Chimera

IS1: 120
Vox, Chimera, AC

IS4: 115
AC, Chimera

PCS2: 45
vox, AC,

IS2: 65
vox, AC

IS3: 60
AC

Mortar: 60

Hydra x 2 : 150

Vendatta gunship x 2 : 260

LRBT: 150

1230 points
Leaving 20 points to spare.
Contains: 6 tanks, 2 skimmers, 61 people.

My main enemies are: Orks, Necrons, Space Marines, Eldar, Chaos
I want a solid all around army list, as a base for my other list 1,5k for another group where I play.
Iy anyone wants it I can post it when necessary.
Although it's a bit light on infantry I do have a lot of different tanks.

I'd drop the MoO (points aren't big enough to get the big enemy formations he needs) and the vox network (not necessary) to arm your command squads.

woah, this list is SERIOUSLY under-powered. You're basically bringing a couple autocannons, a half dozen lascannons and a battlecannon to a 1250 point fight (note that most of this can be neutralized by killing just 3 vehicles). I'd seriously add more power to this list.

For example, you have 16 special weapons slots you're taking and then not using. In fact, with little in the way of extra leadership, and nothing in the way of extra firepower, those 460 points you spent on infantry is a huge points sink that absorbs over a third of your points.

The support is there to do some decent damage, but the list as a whole is hollow in the middle.

Hmm...
I could drop the 3 chimera's, the MoO, 2 of the voxes in the chimera platoon. This gives 205 points.
Plus another 35 points from the list. A total of 240 points
Enough to equip the company command with a chimera. (I have the model for it, so I want to use it in the list. Or I could take melta vets for it.)
Leaving 195 points. Enough for another LRBT of for another fully armed platoon.

actually, consolidating your list isn't a bad idea. As it is you're running an infantry-horde-mechanized-air cav-armored list. It's too diffracted to be all that effective in anything.

I'd cut that list of things down to just two and arm your list accordingly. It's just a matter of which styles you want to play with.

Listen to ros, he's right. Pick a theme. You said you want to have a good core to expand on, so the other components could be added as the points go up.

I would like to keep the hydra, have some tanks and some troops. Enough to take a beating.
A mech-guard list.
I'll post a list later for that.
I'll cut down on the vendatta's and the mortars.
Which leaves us with a infantry-mechanized-armored list.


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Assuming we make this list and have have 2 hydra's, 2 LRBT's and 2 Chimera's.
1250 - 560 = 690 points. So then we have 690 points left for infantry.
Would that be enough or not?


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I haven't worked out the points yet, but how about this?

CCS:
vox, standard

PCS:
AC, vox

IS:
AC, vox

IS:
AC

PCS:
AC, vox

IS:
AC, vox

IS:
AC

IS:
AC

Vets (3x melta): 155
Vets (3x melta): 155

It's light on anti tank.

Just as a start, Melta Vets need to be mounted.

CCS: 70
vox, standard

PCS: 50
LC

IS: 70
LC

IS: 70
LC

PCS: 45
AC, vox

IS: 65
AC, vox

IS: 60
AC

IS: 60
AC

Vets (3x melta with chimera) x 2: 310

LRBT x 2: 300

Hydra x 2: 150

A total of 1250 points.
Although I have 2 of everything, I kinda feel that the anti tank is too less.

i would suggest:

drop the voxes, AC, LC and the standard
=90 pts + 20 = 110 spare points

give your CCS 4x melta
= 70 pts left

drop a commissar in a IS And combine squads

then you can choose:

invest i one powerblob and leave the rest in cover near your 'home objective'

or get another commissar to form 2 stubborn blob-squads

just my opinion

(edited for spelling)

Even with bring it down being issued, I still find bs 3 to be wholly unreliable with lascannons. Maybe I just have bad luck.

Anyway, might I suggest some flamers for your power blob? They're great when you need to get that unit to tarpit something.

Drop the standard, give your ccs upgrades and I think the list is looking pretty good now!

The problem with your new list is that 50% of your points aren't doing anything. The infantry only have scattered firepower, and, without commissars, no particular durability against armies that get into close combat.

Really, this is a list that's 2 mechvets, 2 LRBTs and a 2x hydra squadron.

If this is what you want the core of your list to be, then build around this core. Take like 4 more mechvet squads at least.

4 More mechvets?
Squeezing them into a 1250 points list is going to be hard. Yet I like the idea of an entrie army mounted in Chimera's.
An entire army mounted in Chimera's.

Let's say:

HQ
Lord commissar: 70

Troops
PCS: 105
4 Flamers, chimera

IS: 55
GL
IS: 55
GL

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Heavy Support
LRBT x 2: 300

Hydra x 2: 150

A total of 1200 points

The Lord commissar will join the infantry squads and they will be a bubble wrap around the LRBT and the hydra's. The PCS will be the anti horde group and the rest of the veterans will be running around against tanks and bigger things.
The thing is, I would like an mech guard list that involves veterans in chimera's as well as 2 hydra's. The LRBT's aren't necessary but I think they are a good choice for any mech guard.

I could drop the bubble wrap platoon, then I get a list like this:

CCS: 125
flamer x 4, chimera

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 170
3 x plasma, chimera, lasguns

LRBT x 2: 300

Hydra x 2: 150

A total of 1210 points.

There, that second list is what a mechvet+armored list looks like. For the remaining 40 points, turn your BS4 CCS flamers into BS4 CCS plasma guns and you should be good to go.

"CCS: 125
flamer x 4, chimera

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 170
3 x plasma, chimera, lasguns

LRBT x 2: 300

Hydra x 2: 150

A total of 1210 points. "

I like this alot. much better than the first one.
and i agree with Ailaros about switching the CCS flamers to plasma....

Any particular reason not to split the Hydras into separate units?

Raxmei wrote:Any particular reason not to split the Hydras into separate units?

or the Russes now that i think about it....

Narrowed your focus, looking good. You could maybe add that platoon you wanted when you take it up to 1500, to bubblewrap your long-range armour, like you mentioned.

I agree with splitting the russes or hydras.

Thanks a lot guys!
And the hydra's as well as the Russses operate independant but for the purpose of calculating I took them as one unit.
They act as independant unit because if a enemy gets close, I lose one tank instead of both of the tanks.

Obviously you can't split the Hydras and the Russes at the same time. There's some benefit to multiple blasts in that having them hit at the same time will cause more damage if you were planning on hitting the same target anyway. The way a Hydra works you don't get that sort of benefit and you're likely to want to hit separate targets anyway.

and what about this... (this is from you're list)

CCS: 125
flamer x 4, chimera

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 155
3 x melta, chimera, shotguns

Vets: 170
3 x plasma, chimera, lasguns

LRBT x 2: 300

Hydra x 2: 150

A total of 1210 points. "

1st option:
+ camo netting for you're hydra's

2nd option:
+ heavy bolters for you're LRBT

3th option:
+ scout sentinel with autocannon

then you have a total of 1250 points