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**death2emperor**

I've been wondering about this for a while:
is space marines or chaos space marines better?
both are great with special characters like marneus calgar and abadon the despoiler ( srry if i spell the names wrong)

please post ang give me ur answers

grrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

**MrGiggles**

I would have to say that out of the two choices, Orks are better cuz Orks are da biggest and da strongest!

**Cheesecat**

MrGiggles wrote:I would have to say that out of the two choices, Orks are better cuz Orks are da biggest and da strongest!

True Orks are da bestest, but I would take Space Marines over Chaos Marines because the current Chaos Marine codex doesn't represent them well.

**Shas'O Dorian**

Currently SM. The codex is newer, has more flexibility, and more cost effective imho.

**Brother SRM**

Everyone is better than everyone else, always and forever.

Seriously, pointless question. Armies are balanced to have advantages and disadvantages. There is no true "better" or "best" army in the game.

And OP, work on your spelling, capitalization, and grammar please. Your posts need a little work to be easier to read.

**poipo32**

I think you should go Orks, they are definitely better.

**gazelle**

Oddly, back in 3rd edition, I had planned a Loyalist Chapter army using the Chaos Codex, and a Renegade Warband using the Space Marine Codex, because they each gave me options that better represented what I wanted to do. Neither project ever was completed...

To me, they are both Space Marines, and whether one is better than the other lies entirely in the execution of a given list. It's rock-paper-scissors with the two of them.

**Jaon**

Yeah, whats better, yin or yang?

Whats better, good or evil?

Whats better, lightside or darkside?

This question, as Brother SRM said, is unanswerable.

**Cheesecat**

Brother SRM wrote:Everyone is better than everyone else, always and forever.

Seriously, pointless question. Armies are balanced to have advantages and disadvantages. There is no true "better" or "best" army in the game.

And OP, work on your spelling, capitalization, and grammar please. Your posts need a little work to be easier to read.

I'm not sure that's entirely true because back in the 3.5 codex, Chaos Space Marine players were spoiled with choice now there codex has Little to no uniqueness to it. Also the attention has shifted away from the legions to renegade chapters,

instead of balancing the two ideas. I guess it's what you prefer though.

**AbaddonFidelis**

Death
The SM book is unquestionably stronger.... their flexibility and exceptional mobility just blow chaos out of the water.
The best advice I can give you about chaos right now is: "don't"
AF

**Brother SRM**

Cheesecat wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:Everyone is better than everyone else, always and forever.

Seriously, pointless question. Armies are balanced to have advantages and disadvantages. There is no true "better" or "best" army in the game.

And OP, work on your spelling, capitalization, and grammar please. Your posts need a little work to be easier to read.

I'm not sure that's entirely true because back in the 3.5 codex, Chaos Space Marine players were spoiled with choice now there codex has Little to no uniqueness to it. Also the attention has shifted away from the legions to renegade chapters,

instead of balancing the two ideas. I guess it's what you prefer though.

What does any of this have to do with game balance and the rock-paper-scissors factors therein?

**Flaming_Spider**

Personally, I think Space Marines are better, cause they don't have creepy spikes and such all over them. That said, you should play Necrons.

**Cheesecat**

Brother SRM wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:Everyone is better than everyone else, always and forever.

Seriously, pointless question. Armies are balanced to have advantages and disadvantages. There is no true "better" or "best" army in the game.

And OP, work on your spelling, capitalization, and grammar please. Your posts need a little work to be easier to read.

I'm not sure that's entirely true because back in the 3.5 codex, Chaos Space Marine players were spoiled with choice now there codex has Little to no uniqueness to it. Also the attention has shifted away from the legions to renegade chapters,

instead of balancing the two ideas. I guess it's what you prefer though.

What does any of this have to do with game balance and the rock-paper-scissors factors therein?

True, but people like characterful and unique options too not just game balance.

**JSK-Fox**

Play Tau.

**Brother SRM**

Cheesecat wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:Everyone is better than everyone else, always and forever.

Seriously, pointless question. Armies are balanced to have advantages and disadvantages. There is no true "better" or "best" army in the game.

And OP, work on your spelling, capitalization, and grammar please. Your posts need a little work to be easier to read.

I'm not sure that's entirely true because back in the 3.5 codex, Chaos Space Marine players were spoiled with choice now there codex has Little to no uniqueness to it. Also the attention has shifted away from the legions to renegade chapters,

instead of balancing the two ideas. I guess it's what you prefer though.

What does any of this have to do with game balance and the rock-paper-scissors factors therein?

True, but people like characterful and unique options too not just game balance.

I never said a single word about characterful or unique options. I just said there is no best army in the game, and that they're all good at certain things. Where the hell are you getting this stuff?

**Lethargic Ulfur**

Grey Hunters :p

**Doctadeth**

I'd go space marines simply because the tactical options are more relatively straightforward.

**Dark Scipio**

For what do you want to know that?

**Cheesecat**

Brother SRM wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:Everyone is better than everyone else, always and forever.

Seriously, pointless question. Armies are balanced to have advantages and disadvantages. There is no true "better" or "best" army in the game.

And OP, work on your spelling, capitalization, and grammar please. Your posts need a little work to be easier to read.

I'm not sure that's entirely true because back in the 3.5 codex, Chaos Space Marine players were spoiled with choice now there codex has Little to no uniqueness to it. Also the attention has shifted away from the legions to renegade chapters,

instead of balancing the two ideas. I guess it's what you prefer though.

What does any of this have to do with game balance and the rock-paper-scissors factors therein?

True, but people like characterful and unique options too not just game balance.

I never said a single word about characterful or unique options. I just said there is no best army in the game, and that they're all good at certain things. Where the hell are you getting this stuff?

I know you didn't mention anything about characterful choices, I'm just saying there's more to an army than just game balance.

**Whatsit Tooya**

I would have to go with the sm as they have more options and can be assisted by deamon hunters. They also are the most overpowered team in the 40k universe.