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Hello again, I'm going to be part of a 4 month 40k campaign and well since their are only 2 Ork players we're out numbered so we get an extra point reserve to make whatever we want. Apparently we'll get 7000 points. So here's my list so far.


1 Ork Big Mek (KFF) 85 points.

1 Ork Big Mek (KFF) 85 points.


5 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 350 points.

5 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 350 points.

5 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 350 points.


3 Kill Kans (3x 3 Grotzooka) 195 points.

3 Kill Kans (3x 3 Grotzooka) 195 points.

3 Kill Kans (3x 3 Grotzooka) 195 points.

A lot of the armies are MEQ and IG for the Order side. Chaos is MEQ based also no daemons. Then we have Necrons, Tau, and Eldar

So I'm making this list to shut down mechanized armies.

I'll appreciate all help going with this.

You have 7,000 spare points? well Why not grab a Stompa or 3?

Eyclonus wrote:You have 7,000 spare points? well Why not grab a Stompa or 3?

I don't know how Apoc or rules for 7000 points go, so I'm just making a huge Kan wall list.

I need troops and trukks if I'm correct. But yeah...

Take a couple of dreads as troop. And 4 full mobs of 30 boys with klaws and poles.

As elites go for as many nobbikers as you can get in the list, it might be enough to use 7000p.

Hope it helps.

Lottrup wrote:Take a couple of dreads as troop. And 4 full mobs of 30 boys with klaws and poles.

As elites go for as many nobbikers as you can get in the list, it might be enough to use 7000p.

Hope it helps.

Dreads count as troops? Example please...I'm assuming the Mek boy's HQ thing

If this is apoc. Take a look at these

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat60016a&categoryId=900006§ion=&aId=3400020

Sorry for the link dump. but they may help.

SAG Battery is just awesome.

1 Ork Big Mek (KFF) 85 points.

1 Ork Big Mek (KFF) 85 points.


30 Shoota Boyz (2x Big Shoota) w. Nob (PK,BP) 230 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Shoota Boyz (2x Big Shoota) w. Nob (PK,BP) 230 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.


15 Lootas 225 points.

15 Lootas 225 points.

15 Lootas 225 points.


5 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 350 points.

5 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 350 points.

5 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 350 points.


3 Kill Kans (3x 3 Grotzooka) 195 points.

3 Kill Kans (3x 3 Grotzooka) 195 points.

3 Kill Kans (3x 3 Grotzooka) 195 points.

This is 3380 points O:

Remember there are no FOC limits in Apoc, take 4 Warpheads and you'll likely be able to waaagh! every turn.

Eyclonus wrote:Remember there are no FOC limits in Apoc, take 4 Warpheads and you'll likely be able to waaagh! every turn.

Do you know where I can find the point values for stompas and such?

Or should I put wagons?

Stompas are in the Apoc book, they're big, like 350 points or more. Also they have some neat weapons, like the Psycho Dakka Gun, its a 48" Heavy 4D6 weapon that starts shooting another unit in 12" of the first target, after thats resolved it will target a new unit in 12" of the second, and so on until you roll doubles. It can take forever to resolve the weapon if you're lucky.

Eyclonus wrote:Stompas are in the Apoc book, they're big, like 350 points or more. Also they have some neat weapons, like the Psycho Dakka Gun, its a 48" Heavy 4D6 weapon that starts shooting another unit in 12" of the first target, after thats resolved it will target a new unit in 12" of the second, and so on until you roll doubles. It can take forever to resolve the weapon if you're lucky.

That is by far the coolest thing ever. DAKKA!

Its not even that good by Apoc standards. But you can have three of them. I witnessed one which took about 90 minutes before it failed. So many fallen Guardsmen and Marines. Also when it stops firing, its jammed for the game, so you only get to use it a second time if it runs out of targets.

Eyclonus wrote:Its not even that good by Apoc standards. But you can have three of them. I witnessed one which took about 90 minutes before it failed. So many fallen Guardsmen and Marines. Also when it stops firing, its jammed for the game, so you only get to use it a second time if it runs out of targets.

Could you explain that to me how it works then? The jamming part.

When generating the number of shots, if you roll a double, the weapon fires, but it will not fire again. Its Gone, bro, Gone. On the other hand, its not a big loss, you could take like 6 of them on a single Stompa, with 18 of those things you're shooting phase is gonna take a few hours........

1 Ork Big Mek (KFF) 85 points.

1 Ork Big Mek (KFF) 85 points.
(170)


30 Shoota Boyz (2x Big Shoota) w. Nob (PK,BP) 230 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Shoota Boyz (2x Big Shoota) w. Nob (PK,BP) 230 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.
(900)


15 Lootas 225 points.

15 Lootas 225 points.

15 Lootas 225 points.
(675)


1 Battlewagon (Deff Rolla) 120 points.


1 Battlewagon (Deff Rolla) 120 points.


1 Battlewagon (Deff Rolla) 120 points.


1 Battlewagon (Deff Rolla) 120 points.


1 Battlewagon (Deff Rolla) 120 points.


1 Battlewagon (Deff Rolla) 120 points.
(720)



5 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 350 points.

5 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 350 points.

5 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 350 points.
(1050)


3 Kill Kans (3x 3 Grotzooka) 195 points.

3 Kill Kans (3x 3 Grotzooka) 195 points.

3 Kill Kans (3x 3 Grotzooka) 195 points.
(585)



1 Stompa 600 points.

1 Stompa 600 points.

1 Stompa 600 points.
(1800)

Suggestions?

Eyclonus wrote:When generating the number of shots, if you roll a double, the weapon fires, but it will not fire again. Its Gone, bro, Gone. On the other hand, its not a big loss, you could take like 6 of them on a single Stompa, with 18 of those things you're shooting phase is gonna take a few hours........

No, you cannot take more than one on a single Stompa.

To OP: The Supa-Gatler is S7 Ap3 which continues to fire until a double is rolled on the number of shots fired, then it runs out of ammo and is unuseable. Alternatively you can take a Gigashoota which is S6 Ap4 but you can use it more than once and you get 6D6 shots. Personally I recommend the Supa-Gatler. Stompas themselves are about 400 points IIRC, but you can get many variants such as the Mek Stompa, Custom or Klawstompa. For the 7000 Point list I would recommend you go for a Dread Mob formation. With the Dread Mob, you have to take 4+ units of Ork walkers, but you get to nominate one which has a KFF, giving any vehicles within 12" a 4+ cover save (give it to a Stompa for the massive area covered!)

Valkyrie wrote:

Eyclonus wrote:When generating the number of shots, if you roll a double, the weapon fires, but it will not fire again. Its Gone, bro, Gone. On the other hand, its not a big loss, you could take like 6 of them on a single Stompa, with 18 of those things you're shooting phase is gonna take a few hours........

No, you cannot take more than one on a single Stompa.

To OP: The Supa-Gatler is S7 Ap3 which continues to fire until a double is rolled on the number of shots fired, then it runs out of ammo and is unuseable. Alternatively you can take a Gigashoota which is S6 Ap4 but you can use it more than once and you get 6D6 shots. Personally I recommend the Supa-Gatler. Stompas themselves are about 400 points IIRC, but you can get many variants such as the Mek Stompa, Custom or Klawstompa. For the 7000 Point list I would recommend you go for a Dread Mob formation. With the Dread Mob, you have to take 4+ units of Ork walkers, but you get to nominate one which has a KFF, giving any vehicles within 12" a 4+ cover save (give it to a Stompa for the massive area covered!)

Well what would you change on the list?

The_Savior wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:

Eyclonus wrote:When generating the number of shots, if you roll a double, the weapon fires, but it will not fire again. Its Gone, bro, Gone. On the other hand, its not a big loss, you could take like 6 of them on a single Stompa, with 18 of those things you're shooting phase is gonna take a few hours........

No, you cannot take more than one on a single Stompa.

To OP: The Supa-Gatler is S7 Ap3 which continues to fire until a double is rolled on the number of shots fired, then it runs out of ammo and is unuseable. Alternatively you can take a Gigashoota which is S6 Ap4 but you can use it more than once and you get 6D6 shots. Personally I recommend the Supa-Gatler. Stompas themselves are about 400 points IIRC, but you can get many variants such as the Mek Stompa, Custom or Klawstompa. For the 7000 Point list I would recommend you go for a Dread Mob formation. With the Dread Mob, you have to take 4+ units of Ork walkers, but you get to nominate one which has a KFF, giving any vehicles within 12" a 4+ cover save (give it to a Stompa for the massive area covered!)

Well what would you change on the list?

Well I would change one of the Stompas into a Klawstompa (they're brilliant against heavy armour), and take the 3 Stompas (or even a Stompa and the Kans) into a Dread Mob. Apart from that it seems like a good list.

Valkyrie wrote:

The_Savior wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:

Eyclonus wrote:When generating the number of shots, if you roll a double, the weapon fires, but it will not fire again. Its Gone, bro, Gone. On the other hand, its not a big loss, you could take like 6 of them on a single Stompa, with 18 of those things you're shooting phase is gonna take a few hours........

No, you cannot take more than one on a single Stompa.

To OP: The Supa-Gatler is S7 Ap3 which continues to fire until a double is rolled on the number of shots fired, then it runs out of ammo and is unuseable. Alternatively you can take a Gigashoota which is S6 Ap4 but you can use it more than once and you get 6D6 shots. Personally I recommend the Supa-Gatler. Stompas themselves are about 400 points IIRC, but you can get many variants such as the Mek Stompa, Custom or Klawstompa. For the 7000 Point list I would recommend you go for a Dread Mob formation. With the Dread Mob, you have to take 4+ units of Ork walkers, but you get to nominate one which has a KFF, giving any vehicles within 12" a 4+ cover save (give it to a Stompa for the massive area covered!)

Well what would you change on the list?

Well I would change one of the Stompas into a Klawstompa (they're brilliant against heavy armour), and take the 3 Stompas (or even a Stompa and the Kans) into a Dread Mob. Apart from that it seems like a good list.

Could you give me a quick list of what that'd look like?

I mean I do got 2000 points to spare still.

The_Savior wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:

The_Savior wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:

Eyclonus wrote:When generating the number of shots, if you roll a double, the weapon fires, but it will not fire again. Its Gone, bro, Gone. On the other hand, its not a big loss, you could take like 6 of them on a single Stompa, with 18 of those things you're shooting phase is gonna take a few hours........

No, you cannot take more than one on a single Stompa.

To OP: The Supa-Gatler is S7 Ap3 which continues to fire until a double is rolled on the number of shots fired, then it runs out of ammo and is unuseable. Alternatively you can take a Gigashoota which is S6 Ap4 but you can use it more than once and you get 6D6 shots. Personally I recommend the Supa-Gatler. Stompas themselves are about 400 points IIRC, but you can get many variants such as the Mek Stompa, Custom or Klawstompa. For the 7000 Point list I would recommend you go for a Dread Mob formation. With the Dread Mob, you have to take 4+ units of Ork walkers, but you get to nominate one which has a KFF, giving any vehicles within 12" a 4+ cover save (give it to a Stompa for the massive area covered!)

Well what would you change on the list?

Well I would change one of the Stompas into a Klawstompa (they're brilliant against heavy armour), and take the 3 Stompas (or even a Stompa and the Kans) into a Dread Mob. Apart from that it seems like a good list.

Could you give me a quick list of what that'd look like?

I mean I do got 2000 points to spare still.

The list would be exactly the same, except that the Stompas and Kans are taken as one Apoc Formation. They have to deploy/arrive together but apart from that the list stays the same. If you have 2000 points spare, go for a couple more mobs of Boyz, and go for another Super-Heavy like a Skullhammer or a Custom Battlefortress.

Alright got it. Thanks