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First off let me just say that I am brand new to this, not only 40k but to tabletop games in general.

With that being said.... A little about what I have done to this point.

So far I sold off a good portion of my Magic The Gathering Cards in an effort to launch my own WAAAGGH!!

I have purchased an AoBR Box Set, an Ork Battleforce and have purchased two boxes of boyz so far.
I made these purchases around July 1st. Now having never built any of these type of models (or painted them)
I jumped right into assembly. Down side is most of it is assembled. Half of it is painted. Then I get an identity crisis
as I do not know which way I want to build the army. I realized I have both slugga choppa boyz and shootas, not sure if
my newly painted Warboss is even kitted the way I want him.

I dont consider this a loss of time or effort as I have enjoyed it thus far, but would hate to lose anymore build time to indecision.

To that end I have composed the following Vehicle Spam List. I would like to get opinions if it is viable before continuing.

HQ's
Big Mek - KFF, BP, Cybork X2

Elite's (Two squads ride in BW's with 1 Big Mek per. Can be switched with Burna's havent built these yet.)
14 Lootas
14 Lootas

Battlewagon - Big Shoota, DeffRolla, Armour Plates, RPJ X2

Troops (two squads of Trukk boyz, 1 BW of Shoota boyz)

11 Slugga Choppa Boyz
1 Nob - PK, BP

11 Slugga Choppa Boyz
1 Nob - PK, BP

Trukk - Ram, RPJ X2

19 Shoota Boyz with 2 Big Shootas
1 Nob - PK, BP

Battlewagon - RPJ, DeffRolla, Big Shoota, Armour Plates, Boarding Plank



If my Math is correct (probably not, LOL) this should be 1499.

Any Comments and suggestions would be nice.

Thanks in advance.
DieSlow321

Your Lootas do not need battlewagons at all. If you move them, you cannot fire.

Burna's it is then!

Hello DieSlow321 and welcome!

Firstly you can cover the whole parade with one Big Mek. In whch case you could drop the second BM. Also cybork is a bit redundant as you dont need to allocate wounds to him when he is in the squad and once your procession arrives at the enemy lines his job is done.

I believe that 28 burnas are an overkill and completely inefective if your opponent is in transports. Drop one squad for something else. I would use tankbustaz in your list but they are hard to play if you are not familiar.

Now your list is pretty low on AV. You have 3 Deffrollas and 1 Boarding plank and this not nearly enough. Put planks on all the vehicles that have claws in them and consider giving the Mek a claw for the above reason.

Try and fit some quick AV to your list like warbuggies, or Deffkoptaz.

Thank you for the response. And I definately am not familiar with TankBustas but will look into them as an option.

So if I drop to one HQ a Single Big Mek..... with a PK, BP, KFF, and a Skorcha kombi weapon. to ride in a single BW with the Burnas.

I add in 3 Deffkoptas with TL Rokkits and Buzzsaws.

Spruce up the battlewagons I keep to include some better weapon options and maybe some grot riggers.

Add in two small squads of lootas of 5 each.

this would put me at roughly 1500 (1501) I think.

That give me two truks of slugga boys.
A BW of shoota boyz.
A BW of Burnas with a KFF Big Mek.
A Small unit of DeffKoptas.
Two Small Units of Lootas.
All vehicles with Boarding Planks.

Would this work?> Would it fix my AV issue?

Split the koptas into three different units therfore eliminating any morale test you would take. plus you can hit more targets.

bigmeklover wrote:Split the koptas into three different units therfore eliminating any morale test you would take. plus you can hit more targets.

This, my boss walked in and I was unable to post.

ya thats it maybe it would just be less of a hassle to say that I am right?

lol

as always

I get that you would better pass the morale issues, but what about on killpoint missions. My friend at my flgs told me that i should put em together so as to not take unnecessary losses. Then again I will end up playing against him.

Also with the most recent version I mentioned they all three have Buzzsaws. Does this make a difference when splitting down the unit size to 1?

Also with this most recent list, do I have enough anti-vehicle?


Edit:

Most Recent List Being:
Big Mek - KFF, BP, PK, Shoota/Skorcha Kombi

11 Slugga / Choppa Boys
1 Nob - BP / PK
Trukk - RPJ, Ram, Boarding Plank

11 Slugga / Choppa Boys
1 Nob - BP / PK
Trukk - RPJ, Ram, Boarding Plank

19 Shoota Boys
1 Nob - BP / PK
BW - DeffRolla, RPJ, Boarding Plank, Armour Plates, Rokkit Launchas, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota

15 Burna Boyz
BW - DeffRolla, RPJ, Boarding Plank, Armour Plates, Kannon, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota

5 Lootas

5 Lootas

1 DeffKopta - T/L Rokkit, Buzzsaw

1 DeffKopta - T/L Rokkit, Buzzsaw

1 DeffKopta - T/L Rokkit, Buzzsaw

Total : 1499

Basically I think the only way people really use deffcoptas is as suicide units - scout then assault vehicles on the first turn. So basically, they're going to die, it's worth the KPs to potentially earn the same number back, and more importantly to cripple your opponent's plans.

In your most recent list, I would scrap the trukk boyz squads for 1 big squad in a BW. They're much scarier vehicles than trukks, and 20-man ork squads are a lot harder for your opponent to manage than 12-man. Alternatively a lot of these sorts of lists take one KFF mek, and one warboss (who allows you to take a squad of nobz and their dedicated transport BW as a troops choice) this is more of a style thing at 1500 points, but if you ever scale up to 2000, I think it becomes pretty much mandatory.

List looks pretty darn good to me. Keep the Trukks, you'll love zipping around the battlefield in them. I know I do.

EDIT:
Satan Post

Well Ty Both for the replies.

Unless I get any other opinions to change it, this will be my my List for 1500.

though I have decided to make a 1000 Point Foot Slogging List as well for more Variety.

Just ordered the BW's for this one today!! WAAAAAAGGHH!!!

Tanks for joining Dakka Dakka. But one this is certain just keep modifing you original list at the beginning.

Now onto the list.

big mek dump everything on him hes only there for the KFF.

Add either a warboss or Ghazghkull

Make all slugga boyz mobz in battlewagons.

No shootaz boyz.

Dump the burnaz.

Dump the Lootaz.

At 1500 you want to get as many boyz, nobz and a warbossess as possible.

battlewagonz: Deff rolla, armor plates, grot riggers, and a big shoota nothing else.

So the way that I am suggesting is
1 warboss
1 big mek

1 nob squad (max 270 points for 1500) w/ battlewagon

3 20 boyz mobz all in battlewagonz.

Ok now that is kind of depressing.

I was hoping since the others liked it I was good, now I need a whole re-vamp?

Can I get a few more options weighed in here so I can make a decision on which way to go?

Thank you all.

The army list you posted would do just fine. The army list Deff Jaw posted would do just fine.

Building the army you want to paint and would have fun playing with is far more important than micromanaging your list.

The only rule w/ making ork list that shouldn't be broken is stick to a theme. (If you want boys get a ton of boys, if you want vehicles...etc)

As far as shoota boys vs slugga boys it comes down to personal tastes. I perfer shoota boys as their shooting attacks soften up a target before combat, which is great cause if orks poor Initiative, but, you'll find yourself not wanting to utilize the Waagh w/ them most times.

Like Grabzak said, do what YOU want to do. I started off mixing Battle wagons and Trukks in every list and it did really well. The trukks are good because they can give your BWs side cover, forcing your opponent to shoot at AV 14 for a couple turns.

My current list I am running all Battle wagons. Its an extremely good list and i feel that its a little better than having both BWs and Trukks. I did find that the Trukk mobs die off pretty quick and if you cant get them in fast enough, their not going to do much. On the flip side, i love the model and trukks are fun as hell to play. I also always run 3 single koptas in EVERY ork Mech list...their worth the 3 KPs.

One of the biggest reasons i went all BWs was because of the huge increase in AV popping power. The deff rollas are awesome against vehicles, and if you put boarding planks on every wagon, you are guaranteed to pop whatever you go after. Not to mention fielding 4 or 5 BWs is just pure awesome.

Hope this helps.